Agree about NZ aa,i think N.Z. go into any game with wales knowing that even if the score is really close after 70 mins Wales will make a knock on or drop a pass at a vital game winning moment and then they will capitalise and its same old same old,but even that can’t last forever(well it can but hey who knows :-))

Well, for a chuckle, just find the alternative on arrsepedia (under “jockanese”) 😯

Not sure who’s accusing @aa of hating anyone, the debate here seems robust but fair. Can’t understand why anyone thinks I’m trolling, that’s not me at all just putting my point of view as is @aa and others on here. I certainly don’t think he’s hating anyone. I’m reasonably certain @aa didn’t think Wales would make it out if the group, England away, injury wracked and then Australia up last in a potential knockout match.

England could have been pretty good. Actually more than that they should have been. With Ford at 10 and a midfield without Burgess I think we had a real shot. My comments on Wales where based upon the side that made it to the tournament with some of their best players out injured. My frustration at the loss to Wales was massive on the basis I think we should have won very comfortably, I said before the game our selection gave Wales a chance and with the wrong side we then threw the game away.

Now really this is enough about England from me. Must work out which games we can watch.

Might have to wear one of my Jambalaya branded shirts in Cardiff this weekend so anyone can come and say hi 🙂 Aux armes, citoyens

Press reporting that Mike Catt twice til Cipriani he would “end his England career” and that most of the players took Cipriani’s side.
Think there is a lot more to come from what appears to be an extremely unhappy England camp.

Cipriani ended Ciprianis England career, or perhaps I should say his drinking and general lifestyle

Going on previous RFU behaviour I’m disappointed that they don’t have any “England World Champions 2015” T-Shirts. 😆

Its easy to imagine that Cipriani becomes a gobshite after he learns he’s out of the team, and yes his England days are most likely over unless a new coach realises his potential and throws him a line.

But for coaches to use that kind of vocabulary to players is unacceptable, and then this is the second time we heard the players supporting themselves vs the coaches.

I’m not sure what makes the players so bound to defend the coaches in interviews – maybe they worry thier future international careers, but I’m faitly confident that post world cup someone who doesnt have a career anymore – Robshaw? Cips? will be part of some kind of expose that sees this coaching setup overhauled by the RFU.

There’s far too much smoke to be without a fire.

The RFU cleanup thing is a nice idea but that kind of assumes their meddling has no part in it. I can’t imagine that they have no idea what is happening or are even to root of many of the issues… Big change might require the RFU to admit some mistakes and that just muddies progress further

Welsh Team for Aus – looks a strong one:

Backs: Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), George North (Northampton Saints), Jamie Roberts (Harlequins), Liam Williams (Scarlets), Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Gareth Davies (Scarlets).

Forwards: Paul James (Ospreys), Scott Baldwin (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Luke Charteris (Racing 92), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Sam Warburton (Capt) (Cardiff Blues), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Taulupe Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons).

Replacements: Ken Owens (Scarlets), Aaron Jarvis (Ospreys), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester Rugby), Lloyd Williams (Cardiff Blues), Rhys Priestland (Bath Rugby), James Hook (Gloucester Rugby).

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funny that…
after the players “confidential statements” were released to the press 4 years ago when the RFU were trying to write a report about the failure of that World Cup campaign…

What do people in Scotland think of Hogg?, cheap shot red card and then the diving against South Africa

Yeah I think you’re right. You’re not gonna criticise someone if they’ll still be around next time a squad is picked.

Nick Easter is a pretty forthright character and he’s unlikely to play on for England, at 37, so he might spill the beans. You’ve gotta think there must have been a huge amount of disharmony. There was that report a while ago of a big argument between Farrell Snr and Catt with both parties being completely at loggerheads.

I’d speculate that Farrell is at the centre of a lot of it especially as the players weren’t in favour of Burgess being in the squad and the obvious question of nepotism. The RFU should NEVER have employed a coach who’s son was likely to be involved in being selected.

@duckman 🙂 who’d want to be seen in England 2015 RWC shirt !

Other internet forums are available for that kind of masochist…

😛

An ex colleague of mine went to school with Mike Catt and his brother and knows them well. Just sent him a note to say I hope Mike told Cips whats been reported

Alfie had his moments too. and Byrne.

Not doubt Cipriani comes with some baggage but as a rugby fan he didn’t do much wrong on the pitch when given a chance again in an England shirt. I guess an argument could be made for the real making of a strong coach and/or strong captain being able to manage different personalities and have them work towards a common goal. Not saying that isn’t happening but the nicey nicey squad selection seemed to be about avoiding problems and ignoring some great players as a result… and then all went to sh1t when some great guy got parachuted in to mess things up anyway