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2014 Saracens….
PeterPoddy
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I’m a Saracen fan. I admit it. I ride a 2012 Kili Flyer and it’s luvverly.
But a 2014 Saracen catalogue has just landed on my workbench and, my oh my, do they have some cracking bikes out this year. The Kili Flyer 122 is probably the pick of the range for me or the Zen with dropper post 2×10 Deore/SLX and Sektors for £1499
At the other end there’s the Tuffrax Elite, an 8sp, hydraulic disced, 700mm barred 29er for £420! That’s a proper usable first MTB at a price that undercuts Trek and Specialized by a clear £100.
Flicking through the spec it’s obvious someone has thought long and hard about what UK riders need. I’m very impressed. 🙂

Posted 10 years ago

PeterPoddy
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The Terminal BMX is lush in an old skool fashion too.

Posted 10 years ago

ska-49
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I love the new range they have. Look well designed with a good spec BUT the FS bikes are to expensive. Charging more than kona/Giant/Spec for the same spec. It’s a shame as I was looking at the Ariel.

Posted 10 years ago

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IHN
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butt itz sarcin innit? 🙂

Posted 10 years ago

chakaping
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Is there a 29er Zen?

I saw a proto pic a year or so ago but I guess they dropped it for 650b.

Posted 10 years ago

CaptainFlashheart
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No steel. 🙁

I wish they would make some sort of steel HT under the Kili name.

Posted 10 years ago

core
Full Member

I get the impression madison were wanting to shift the mtb market to saracen from genesis?

Posted 10 years ago

chakaping
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I wish they would make some sort of steel HT under the Kili name.

I’d agree, but they did and it must not have sold.

But then perhaps they were asking way too much for it.

Edit – And the Zen is a remarkably comfy alu frame, as well as being light and stiff.

Posted 10 years ago

wwaswas
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CFH: 2011 – Saracen Kili Cromo – lovely 853…

Few were still available NOS last time I looked.

Posted 10 years ago

DezB
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^^ that’s like PP’s. Tasty frame.

Posted 10 years ago

snakebite
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I had a 2013 Zen, 17″ last Summer, it sort of became my favourite bike! 650b, dropper, velvet forks, SLX etc, for sale as I want the 2014 version. 😯

Posted 10 years ago

gordy90lpg
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Got a kili flyer 121 at the start of January , hopefully it lasts longer than my genesis grapil .

Posted 10 years ago

daveh
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Did you break your Grapil? I broke 2. 😳

Posted 10 years ago

PeterPoddy
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Agreed its sad there’s no steel but the steel Kilis were too expensive. Lovely frames, prototyped by Enigma, but £750 was too much for the frame. I bought mine used off here. 🙂

Posted 10 years ago

PeterPoddy
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And the best thing about Saracen, Genesis and Ridgeback?
All Madison brands, so no Avid brakes. 🙂

Posted 10 years ago

AlexSimon
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lol at PP – indeed.

Posted 10 years ago

crazy-legs
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Saracen was my first ever MTB. Saracen Sahara Elite back in 1993. Eventually I upgraded to the top of the range Kili Ultra Ti (1997 I think).

Sold it recently – bit of a heartbreak to see it go but I couldn’t really justify keeping it and never using it.

It was awful when Saracen went all cheapo BSO, was so good to see them back with the steel hardtails again.

Their range this year does look good. If I was in the market for a new FS, the Kili Flyer 123 would certainly be up there

Posted 10 years ago

AlexSimon
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IHN – Member

butt itz sarcin innit?
I guess some of us are old enough to remember the time before that.
In fact they weren’t really on my radar at all during the 90s (once I’d become attached to Konas).

Posted 10 years ago

robbonzo
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Did you break your Grapil? I broke 2.

I broke mine too DaveH, 😥 doomed frame unfortunately, although they were very good about it in the end. They tried to get me on a sarcin, but not my bag.

Posted 10 years ago

Northwind
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If we get back to the Tufftrak being the first proper bike of kids, that’s one more thing right with the world.

(having said that, we have 2 Halfordz Sarcinz in the garage, a Raw 2 and a Rufftrak, they are brilliantly awful. The Rufftrak weighs more than my 224 and has suspension that mysteriously only seems to go up.

Posted 10 years ago

IHN
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I guess some of us are old enough to remember the time before that.

Oh, indeed, we are.

My mate had a Tufftrax in about, ooh, 1988. I was very jealous.

Posted 10 years ago

dandax1990
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My brother picked up a Kili Flyer Cromo last year, still brand new in the box for £1000.

The retail price of £2600 was a joke though, beautiful bikes.

Posted 10 years ago

Leku
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I’ve had two.

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Posted 10 years ago

1981miked
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Those steel Kili’s are bloody lovely.. I couldn’t find one in a small when I was looking though.. : (

Posted 10 years ago

gordy90lpg
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Did you break your Grapil? I broke 2.

Yeah I also broke 2 , they wanted me to wait till a re designed rear triangle was available ! So to get them moving I told them I wanted a full refund , they offered me a kili flyer 121 , might as well give this 650b caper a try 🙂

Posted 10 years ago

Kato
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£1499 turned my head so I checked out their website. Lists 2014 prices for the Kili as £1999 for the 121, £2599 for the 122 and £3199 for the 123

Disappointed now 😕

Posted 10 years ago

makecoldplayhistory
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They are lovely looking bikes. I haven’t ridden one for 2 – 3 years but, if I was in the market for a new HT, they’d be on my list.

I like the way they’ve turned themselves around. Honestly, ‘UR bike iz sarcin’, I thought, spelled the end of the brand as a serious MTB’er name.

djbagines post of his new Ariel 15x really caught my eye. Esp. as I’m a full sus = ugly kind of person!

Posted 10 years ago

richen987
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slightly more disappointed by the absolutely terrible coulour schemes and graphics on the bikes, the Kili’s ref’d above in pics were beautiful, nice understated classic colours, great block graphics etc
this years some horror show of garish colours. they look very cheap IMHO.

edit – the black one above is actually very nice
however this one isn’t!

Ariel 151

Posted 10 years ago

DezB
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Frame only is black and looks great. Bit of a competitive price range for frames at £1600 though.
Yeti 575 or Saracen? I know which I’d go for!

hmm, maybe it’s black n grey

Posted 10 years ago

Northwind
Full Member

I love that! Looks like a 90s trainer. The blue is a bit lost though

Posted 10 years ago

dandax1990
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The chrome detail on my brothers frame is so so so nice.

Posted 10 years ago

chakaping
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The chrome detail on my brothers frame is so so so nice.

Have a word with him about those mudguards though, eh?

Bit of a competitive price range for frames at £1600

Hmmm, £1.6k for a Saracen frame when we all know the complete bikes will be going for less 10 months later? I’m not trying to be a clever dick, I’m genuinely a bit sad that they are so deluded on pricing.

Posted 10 years ago

dandax1990
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Nothing wrong with the one on the forks but the rear is a bit pointless.

Posted 10 years ago

dandax1990
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And I agree with the price, My brother picked his up brand new in the box for £1000.

Bought from a guy in Newcastle who had it for 9 months and never got round to building it, makes sense.

Posted 10 years ago

dandax1990
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Posted 10 years ago

sharkattack
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I just had to Google this due to an above comment.

Looks mint.

Posted 10 years ago

AlexSimon
Full Member

Looks mint.

More like teal I think.

Posted 10 years ago

Rickos
Free Member

I love the old style Redline-a-like forks that are fatter at the crown on that BMX.

Posted 10 years ago

l0key
Free Member

the team colours on the ariel 152 sold itself too me. Like christmas, can‘t wait till payday to pick it up from lbs 🙂

Posted 10 years ago

daveh
Free Member

I broke mine too DaveH

Ah, it got you too. I think the terrain and my weight accelerated my failure! I blazed the customer service path for you! What did you go for afterwards? I got a Bandit 26.

they offered me a kili flyer 121

How does that compare?

Posted 10 years ago