Still overpriced. Looks good though.

I’ll be sticking with my Prophet I think.

What’s the head angle? Geo chart still shows 69 degrees of the 2010 model.

Looks much nicer than a 5 as well. I’m still interested in a heckler, love my bullit but its too much whereas this seems about right!

And a Five isn’t over priced!!??

Are you not allowed to like both? I’v come from an alpine 160 to an older heckler and a patriot and like them all. Had to use a works angleset on the heckler though, new geo sounds better.

Slight highjack, but Santa Cruz need to update the LTc as everyone is going slacker these days.
New Heckler 67.5 deg
Blur LT 67.6 deg
Blur LTc 68.1 deg (same as the 2012 LT)

The LTc at 67.6 deg fitted with a Fox 34/160 would end up at a bit under 67 deg which would be perfect IMO

It seems to me the off the shelf single pivot is making a revival – more than usual. The group I used to / sometimes ride with is now exclusively Hecklers after one went that way. ONe of the guys tested a few bikes, including a Tallboy and ended up with a Heckler.

It just seems the Heckler / 5 has a go-to ride / simplicity / geo / handling off the shelf that please the masses. Nothing complicated, nothing leftfield.

As a born worrier, I can’t help thinking that if my ASR-5 carbon swingarm broke that a 5/Heckler would be the only two bikes on my list as the “all round” option.

I have mine with 36’s at 150mm and it feels perfect. It’s steeper than my 2011 5 spot but is so much more responsive. Cornering is almost telepathic. I was very surprised that I preferred the steeper, higher, shorter bike, what with everyone wanting long, low, slack. This is on all my riding (DH, XC). I’ll be upset of they do change it and may have to panic buy a spare frame!

Well hello sir! And how has the maiden voyage(s) been?

The great thing about single pivot is it suits me fine. Might not suit everyone but my five ticks my boxes ( minus the forward facing seat tube slot and hose routing along top of swing arm like the alpine)

Different strokes huh

Excellent – I’ll stick an email round I have a ride pass this weekend so wouldn’t mind something other than local.

they dropped the price of the heckler to make room for the butcher/nickel in the range, keeping the heckler basic (no updates, cheap standard shock, limited paint options) as an “entry level” SC. Trouble is, no one bought the mid range bike, they either went for the bargain heckler or the VPP stuff…

Good to see them upgrading the heckler and not using it as an excuse to hike the price up.

The Heckler is the one bike I regret not buying. I demo’ed one about 5 years ago and loved it. The following day I was offered a great deal on an Enduro and bought that instead. Nowt wrong with the Enduro but I always wondered what if….

If I ever sell my Nic (and that is a very big if), I can see myself getting one of the newer ones….

I had a 2011 heckler, and it was ok, but totally ruined for me by the silly short top tube. Just felt far too cramped for me in the medium, and there is no way I should be needing a large (at 5’9). With an angleset it descended well, but thought it climbed like a dog.

Swapped it for my Enduro, which does everything just a little bit better.