Twin - I think it's known as 'new bike syndrome'.
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2011 ST4: Over Excited new bike gushing
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Posted 1 year ago #
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oooooohh! more pics of the ST5! didn't spot those around the web, thanks very much Rickos!
Posted 1 year ago # -
simonm- didnt commencal do this format first?
No, they were both more travel.
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Commencal meta 4 was a 100mm - singletrack did a comparison a few years back and basically said the st4 followed the commencal design
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I thought they said the meta 4 was a more XC orientated bike and the ST4 more fun DH... The ST4 is 68 degree head angle, the Meta 4 69.5.. much more XC.
Re-read here.. It doesn't say comme did it first, merely they systems as similar. http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/reviews/pdf/ST4_Test_Singletrack_48.pdf
My point is the ST4 has more relaxed DH Geometry, and really is the first bike with a slack head angle and short travel.
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I would say the first paragraphs do say the commencal contact system was around first but take your point on the differing nature of their intended use
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I cant remember which ones, but there are a few new frames around this year following the ST4 format.
Posted 1 year ago #
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