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2 New Laws in force next week, good news for the environmnet
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projectFree MemberPosted 8 years ago
Plastic carrier bags to be chargeable and not free anymore in England.
Smoking banned in all vehicles with a person under 18 also in it.
Discuss
PiknMixFree MemberPosted 8 years agoTesco are giving away free bags for life. Both laws are great moves IMO.
bikebouyFree MemberPosted 8 years ago2nd one I agree with.
1st one I don’t think will make one iota of difference. And don’t forget it only applies to Large shops, so not smaller Express types or corner shops.Carry on discussing..
benjiFree MemberPosted 8 years agoCan’t see why we can’t ban smoking in vehicles totally, but saying that using phones whilst driving is banned but definitely not on the decrease, until there is enough police out there to do more enforcement is not going to happen.
tomdFree MemberPosted 8 years agoWe’ve had the 5p bag charge in Scotland for a while. I think it’s a good thing, it has changed behaviour in our office. We all take bags to the shop for lunch now. It’s cut our bag use from 1 per person per day to probably a few a week.
rkk01Free MemberPosted 8 years agoPlaccy bag law should have come in ages ago – as in Wales, where it has made a huge difference to shoppers habits
bloodynoraFree MemberPosted 8 years agoAldi donating profits from plastic bags to the RSPB ….. *Aplauds*
JunkyardFree MemberPosted 8 years agoWhilst I get the not smoking in cars and WHY I dont really see how you can enforce it or why we have bothered as they will still do it in their homes.
I am not sure what has been achieved by it either ban it or dont but this is s strange creeping draconianismNon smoker FWIW
thegreatapeFree MemberPosted 8 years agoScotland here, I reckon quite strongly that the charge is reducing use of them. My local Coop told me they’re getting through loads less.
FlaperonFull MemberPosted 8 years agoSmoking banned in all vehicles with a person under 18 also in it.
Not going to be enforced, according to a police source. So says The Times, anyway. But then the police aren’t enforcing mobile phone use, red light jumping, speeding, or other dangerous driving.
tomdFree MemberPosted 8 years agoThe smoking in cars one I pretty much agree with. It’s already seen as being unacceptable and harmful by a big majority I’d say. The law is just reflecting thst rather than trying to alter or lead public opinion.
molgripsFree MemberPosted 8 years ago1st one I don’t think will make one iota of difference
Seems to have had a huge impact in Wales. The main difference isn’t the 5p, it’s the fact that they don’t automatically give you one. So you buy a few things, you pick them up and leave. When I come to England now I’m slightly horrified to see how they automatically hand out bags like nobody’s business with one or two small items in.
We used to have a cupboard stuffed with the things, even when we tried to remember to bring our own bags, but the charge and the habits of the shop helped make us remember. Cupboard is now empty.
Mister-PFree MemberPosted 8 years agoIf people don’t care enough about their kids to not smoke in an enclosed tin box with them I doubt they give a hoot if it’s made illegal.
NorthwindFull MemberPosted 8 years agoUse of carrier bags in Scotland is down by 80% since the 5p rule came in, that’s pretty amazing tbh, and it generated a million quid in charitable donations too. Usage increased in England, in the same period.
somewhatslightlydazedFree MemberPosted 8 years agoI buy my lunch at Sainsbury’s because it comes with a free bright orange carrier bag. I don’t buy my lunch at M&S because they charge you 5p for a boring green one. Carrier bags have a multitude of uses.
If they start charging 5p every where, at least I might end up with a healthier lunch.
rkk01Free MemberPosted 8 years agoWhen I come to England now I’m slightly horrified to see how they automatically hand out bags like nobody’s business
This
FunkyDuncFree MemberPosted 8 years agoIt’s really bad news for anyone who owns a business making plastic bags 🙁
midlifecrashesFull MemberPosted 8 years agoHow does this affect a seventeen year old who wants to smoke in their own car?
ferralsFree MemberPosted 8 years agoCo-op do biodegradable ones for 6p now too which are really good, if you forget your bag you can get some of them and then use in the food recycling bin.
Only problem is every so often I need a few plastic bags and have to pop out and buy some 😳
P-JayFree MemberPosted 8 years agomidlifecrashes – Member
How does this affect a seventeen year old who wants to smoke in their own car?It doesn’t, since 2011 the legal age to smoke is 18 so they’re not allowed to smoke anywhere or at any time.
Stu_NFull MemberPosted 8 years agoBag charge has made a massive difference here (Scotland).
We had “bags for life” for supermarket shopping and reused most other bags we got but we still had a surplus. Now we are working through that and I reckon I’ve only bought about 10 bags since the charge came in.
The balancing skills of people in Sainsburys and Boots at lunchtime are pretty astonishing too, I reckon if they brought back Crackerjack the Scots would beast it.
Smoking in cars should be banned anyway, on what level does it make sense to let people hold something that’s on fire in a vehicle when they are meant to be concentrating?
scotroutesFull MemberPosted 8 years agoI reckon if they brought back Crackerjack the Scots would beast it.
Huge LOLs
nealgloverFree MemberPosted 8 years agoIt doesn’t, since 2011 the legal age to smoke is 18 so they’re not allowed to smoke anywhere or at any
That applies to buying cigarettes, not smoking them.
Under 16 police can confiscate cigarettes, over 16 there’s nothing they can do.
seosamh77Free MemberPosted 8 years agoI’ve probably spent a few quid on carrier bags since this came in! doesn’t bother me tbh.
JunkyardFree MemberPosted 8 years agoon what level does it make sense to let people hold something that’s on fire in a vehicle when they are meant to be concentrating?
They are addicted to it and it them saty calm and concentrate
Its safer than having them driving angrily whilst rushing home for a smoke.
gwaelodFree MemberPosted 8 years agopoint of order
the smoking in cars thing is about public health…not the environment.
As others have commented..in Wales the carrier bag thing had huge amount of media gnashing and wailing in advance which turned out to be hysterical over reaction. people just got on with it and it became normal within weeks. I now wear a baffled look when the assisstant tries to foist bags on me, until it dawns on me that I must be in England
nealgloverFree MemberPosted 8 years agoon what level does it make sense to let people hold something that’s on fire in a vehicle when they are meant to be concentrating?
A regular smoker isn’t distracted in the slightest by smoking a cigarette. Totally second nature.
Far more dangerous to have a driver desperate for a fag and unable to have one.
scotroutesFull MemberPosted 8 years agoI’m a regular phone user. Doesn’t distract me using it while driving
boriselbrusFree MemberPosted 8 years agoIn the shop where I work in Scotland, before the charge we were giving away about 30 bags a day. Now it’s about 6 a month. I haven’t bought one yet – I just use the bags for life and chuck them back in the car once I’ve emptied them. Not exactly hard…
inverjoeFree MemberPosted 8 years agoYou dont need any bags when you have two young kids, just be prepared for bruised fruit and squashed bread when they drop it…
brFree MemberPosted 8 years ago1st one I don’t think will make one iota of difference. And don’t forget it only applies to Large shops, so not smaller Express types or corner shops.
It’s made a difference in Scotland, we use far less bags.
totalshellFull MemberPosted 8 years agothis is a great day for the supermarkets.. they ve been trying for 20years to reduce the cost of carrier bags and here in one fell swoop is the answer delivered on a plate.. the last tesco store i managed used about 3600 quids worth a month.. thats one store out of 1000 12 years ago.. they ll be dancing in the streets of cheshunt tonight..
wanmankylungFree MemberPosted 8 years ago1st one I don’t think will make one iota of difference. And don’t forget it only applies to Large shops, so not smaller Express types or corner shops.
According to high heid yin in Morrisons the reduction in use of new plastic bags in Scotland is down between 80-90%
nealgloverFree MemberPosted 8 years agoI’m a regular phone user. Doesn’t distract me using it while driving
Fair enough.
epicycloFull MemberPosted 8 years agoproject – Member
Plastic carrier bags to be chargeable and not free anymore in England.Smoking banned in all vehicles with a person under 18 also in it.
You think they would have compromised.
Make it ok to smoke in a vehicle so long as you have a plastic bag over your head.
slowoldmanFull MemberPosted 8 years agoWe’ve used the same bags for several years. I don’t see why fresh plastic bags are needed every time you shop.
polyFree MemberPosted 8 years agoHow does this affect a seventeen year old who wants to smoke in their own car?
It is legal so long as they are the only occupant. If any other occupant it would be illegal (even if the second occupant were an adult and also smoking!)
trail_ratFree MemberPosted 8 years ago“Far more dangerous to have a driver desperate for a fag and unable to have one.”
Does their car not stop.
And the door not open.
Or can they only smoke at home ?
smatkins1Free MemberPosted 8 years agoI had a chuckle this morning at the lady the BBC interviewed in Waitrose about he new rules about charging for bags.
She said something along the lines of “Well I’ll just have to buy my shopping as normal and then pay 20p extra” Said with a smug grin that implied 20p was noting and she wasn’t going to change her habits.
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