Well my point with the crap char thing is more about if you level up using secondary skills (e.g. do a lot of smithing, enchanting, alchemy etc.) then you can end up gaining a few levels without raising combat skills and taken to extremes end up with a high level char that struggles when combat’s required.

There’s also stuff like I was specialising in fire and ice spells only to then read about lightning stuff being instant effect etc. so I’m now thinking perhaps I should start working on that and leave fire/ice alone for a bit. maybe it’s covered in the manual better but I just did a Steam d/l so don’t have anything more to go on than in-game tooltips really :p

Hey? Why? Be what you want to be. Fire ice arcance whatever. Dont be forced in to playing a build just becasue its the ‘best’. Play the one you like.

I ran from fighting ‘red eagle’ but I will be back for him…

Right – a question:

Mrs Grips would like to know how to quickly switch between a bow and a sword. We had a go at getting the favourites set up, but now the dpad hotkey just seems to flip between sword and nothing.

No idea how to equip weapons without going through the whole menu system 🙁

Faves is crap Mollie, I asked same question earlier. Hopefully a patch will sort it out. Waiting for girlfriend to go to bed so I can play it.

Loving Skim. Ranger class build and the slow mo when booming with a bow is awesome.horses are way better too than oblivionThat would be Skyrim and zooming

Oh and attacking some mobs from behind allows you to cut their throat in slow motion – nice :-0

can i jump in please….

you seems all hard core people so be gentle…

Assasins creed annoyed me as i didnt have the patience (at the time)… i reeeeeeeeeeeally want to get an RPG type game but im guessing Skyrim is similar’ish to AC?

think ive answered my own question there!?

My 12y.o son has expressed an interest in this and would like it for Christmas for his PS3. He has not played any of the Oblivion type games before and his main enjoyment is Cod. I think he has seen the ads on tele for it and thinks it looks good – but not sure if he has the right patience for a game like this.

Not being much of a gamer myself (I was playing proper D&D when a student and computer games were fighting mugwumps in text format).

So is this a good starting place? Is it good for short attention spans and is there a cheaper alternative for the complete newbie?

Age rating aside I’m not sure an open-world RPG like Skyrim is a good introduction to the genre. Although linear games (where you go through quests in a fairly rigid order and open up new game areas as you go along) can be frustrating they’re also easier to get into IMO. With something like Skyrim you’re kind of dumped in the middle of a new world with a couple of vague main quest lines you’re aware of from the introductory stuff but what you do and where you go is largely up to you. Whilst the freedom is refreshing you can end up feeling a bit lost and unsure what quests are worth pursuing (depending on your personal goals) and what you can skip etc.

Not entirely sure why it’s 18 to be honest – at least so far. It’s got gushing blood when you fight, but that’s about it. Which is fairly pointless and unneccessary.

It has some mild gore, a couple of mild swear words and people have their heads cut off and throats cut. It’s up to you if you think this too much for your kid. My kids have seen me playing they’re 5 and 8 they know fine well it’s a game not real.

I should clarify,

I wasn’t saying “ZOMG you can’t buy it, he’s too young,” that’s up to you. I was merely pointing it out as something you might want to take into account.

IIRC the Call of Duty series are all PEGI 18 too, so if you’re happy with him playing those… <shrug>

And Barbarian too, then there was Mortal Kombat.

Easy to think something is suitable for kids because “it’s a game” or “it’s a cartoon.”

agree with Mrs Toast, the only thing I’ve ever stopped little brov doing is some of the GTA levels and the airport on MW.

Ha ha PB. Spent all day yesterday playing, man was coming at 10 am to fix the washer, didn’t show up till 4:30! No really…

Level 16 at the moment, using 1 hand a shield which is quite fun. Spent yesterday evening making a full set of dwarven armour and mace, look cool as now!

Trying not to do the main story line too much, so just wandering round finding stuff and killing the dragons as they come. Got my arse handed to me after killing one dragon, some lich guy popped out of a coffin on top of a moubntian and nommed me.

Good fun though, until a giant kills your horse!