If the alternative is to ignore it, I’d far prefer to ask questions.

It’s only by asking questions that this much exposure has come about, we should all be asking questions really.

Here’s a few:

Who pays MI5’s wages?

On whose orders do they cover up abuse?

Is there similar VIP paedophile rings still operating?

I’m sure many of the bright minds in here can think of many more

For those interested, here is the Channel 4 segment.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt4a9ie5MGk[/video]

Maybe they should have a show of hands in parliament…

Theres just been an extensive interview with the mother of one of the Oxford grooming victims on Five Live. It was absolutely harrowing! As a father of two daughters I can’t imagine what she went through.

What was consistent throughout was the total and complete failure of social services, who were told over and over and over what was happening, and who did absolutely nothing about it.

In their alternative universe, once a girl is over the age of 11, she is a ‘young person’ and isn’t being exploited, she’s making ‘lifestyle choices’. The police were apparently very supportive, but it all ended up back in the bonkers politically correct world of social services, who simply refused to address the issue at all.

Political correctness gone mad plus a healthy does of it being “someone else’s responsibility”

The fact the CPS are not going to take it to trial, against the wishes of the police, suggests something is off. As well as the fact it keeps happening:

– Beeb.

Interestingly, on BBC World at One good friend of Lord Janner Uri Geller mentioned his son (Daniel Geller) works at The Crown Prosecution Service:

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/269974

Furthermore, it seems Uri Geller has an extensive history of working with the intelligence services…

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jun/13/nsa-uri-geller-psychic-spy

Sound familiar?

For years the ‘Guardian’ newspaper were most vocal in dismissing any suggestion of muslim grooming gangs as racist lies and therefore must share the blame in all this. They also still refuse to handover Snowden data which poses a threat to national security, apparently they insist the data is ‘safe’ in their hands.

Well done you managed to both demonise the guardian and Muslims in one post

Farage like skills of debating there rather than your usual patriotic EDL type delivery

Well done I do so hope that get you your boy scout bigotry badge

For years the ‘Guardian’ newspaper were most vocal in ….

How would you know ?

You’ve never struck me as a Guardian reader.

Their vitriol peaked around 2011, go check yourself its all online. Or just deny and shout racist.

Interesting piece in enfht’s favourite read:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/19/establishment-stopped-me-exposing-greville-janner-25-years-ago

What’s also a bit odd is that the police, which you claim are part of an establishment paedophile ring and vital control structures of the political and religious elite, should be so vocal in their criticism of the CPS decision.

Police consider challenge to CPS ruling not to charge Janner over abuse allegations

Police are considering an unprecedented legal challenge against the director of public prosecutions (DPP) over her failure to charge Lord Janner of Braunstone following allegations that he abused boys in children’s homes over nearly two decades.

And an Assistant Chief Constable no less said very publicly and apparently unprecedentedly :

Ast Ch Cons Roger Bannister, who has overseen the investigation, said the decision was “perverse” and would do little to support and encourage victims of sexual abuse to come forward. “There is credible evidence that this man carried out some of the most serious sexual crimes imaginable over three decades against children who were highly vulnerable and the majority of whom were in care. We are exploring what possible legal avenues there may be to challenge this decision and victims themselves have a right to review under a CPS procedure.”

That’s a little odd isn’t it ?

Oh I see, not all coppers are part of this conspricy. That explains it. Some are part of an establishment paedophile ring which is vital to the control structures of the political and religious elite, and some aren’t.

I guess it depends whether they are part of the establishment or not. Presumably the Assistant Chief Constable of Leicestershire isn’t part of the establishment? And presumably he also isn’t answerable to Her Majesty – the chief paedophile ring leader ?

Well I have to say it all makes perfect sense.

Thankfully, he seems to be making good use of free speech… however, it appears someone must’ve been in pretty cosy with the Commander in Chief of the British Armed Forces, the Supreme Commander of the Church of England and the Head of State of New Zealand (all the same person, that woman with the funny hat who appears on stamps n whatnot) if this is to be believed:

Royal Family member investigated as part of paedophile ring before cover up

Certainly makes you wonder who has continually been in a position of authority with sufficient sway to close police investigations and involve MI5 and Special Branch whilst several different elected administrations of the House of Commons of Her Majesty’s Government have come and gone.

There’s 17 pages of it already sadly but that was a particularly smug cheap shot from ernie wasn’t it.

It’s a perfectly reasonable point to make that if there is evidence of corruption it’s not going to include every single police officer/official in the country. But then I’m sure he knows that.

And you think letting JHJ know that you think he’s “full of shit” is better than a cheap shot ?

No I think JHJ is full of shit

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You’re not going to persuade JHJ to start thinking rationally, and everyone else knows he’s full of shit.

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I think that JHJ’s claim of a grand conspricy in which the police, the government, the monarchy, the secret service, the courts, etc, conspire to organise a paedophile ring because this is ‘vital to the control structures of the political and religious elite’ is nonsense.

Every time a new development concerning the tragic exploitation of vulnerable children, often in care, by wealthy and powerful establishment peodophiles makes the news JHJ’s theory is undermined.

There is nothing new about peodophiles coverups – it happens throughout society. There is nothing new about peodophiles, and other criminals/law breakers, working together and helping each other. It doesn’t mean that there is a state sponsored peodophile ring in the UK in which the Queen is in charge.

Just like JHJ thinks that this latest development strengthens his case that there is I think it does the complete opposite and strengthens the case that there isn’t.

I choose to make my point by leg-pulling and piss-taking, JHJ has a fair sense of humour and takes it well imo, and is perfectly capable of dishing it back.

You choose to let him know that you think he’s “full of shit”. I don’t think there’s any need for that and prefer my way.

I doubt that anyone is in denial of “the horrific nature of what is being exposed”. I think the problem most people have is in believing that it’s all part of an establishment paedophile ring headed by the Queen which is “vital to the control structures of the political and religious elite”.

Presumably you think it’s because the Queen organised it. She’s going to be very cross with that Assistant Chief Constable !

I said a couple of posts ago :

You’re not convinced ?

You already know the majority of my (well researched) explanation…

Is it the only possibility?

No, despite MI5, MI6, GCHQ etc working on behalf of the Crown and the Queen having been the only constant in overt British (and Commonwealth) power since 1953, there are other possible scenarios.

But there is plenty of reason for suspicion

If not the Royal Family, then who else:

Has the sway to get MI5 and Special branch to intervene in investigation of prominent paedophiles over several elected administrations?

Would be in a position to arrange for Special Branch to spy on MPs and the Prime Minister?

Has jurisdiction over both UK Borders and Jersey?

If you have an explanation of your own, please share…