http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it en-US Wed, 30 May 2012 01:24:37 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1162538 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:41:03 +0000 Ben_H 1162538@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>My Soul frame arrived last month and it&#39;s currently fitted with the commuter / winter spec that you see here:</p> <p><img src="http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c37/benhume/Bikes/IMG_1249.jpg"></p> <p>I ride a short distance (4 miles in total) to work every day, then off-road at weekends and some touring in the summer months. </p> <p>Realistically, you only &quot;need&quot; one bike for my sort of use. After years of multi-bike ownership, I returned to where I started all those years ago: with just one mountain bike. I haven&#39;t been &quot;credit crunched&quot; or anything, but there&#39;s definitely a happiness and purpose that stem from having just one well-loved bike! </p> <p>The Soul is slightly longer than my old Pace RC305 and all the better for it while riding to work. I&#39;ve not had a chance to fit it with my DT Swiss XMC130 forks, but with the rigid forks currently fitted it&#39;s been a very competent steer off road too. </p> <p>Here&#39;s to the summer and some good weather. My pannier rack and slick tyres await! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1154084 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:36:32 +0000 Christowkid 1154084@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Having read it but not yet contributed to the thread, here goes!<br /> I&#39;ve a small 08 Soul in black, XT gears, Hope mono mini&#39;s, and Hope stem.<br /> I&#39;ve put Rev&#39;s on them, coil U turns with q.r. and really like them. Living on the side of a steep valley, I wind down to 100mm for the outward journey of ups and 130mm to return home. Being a Class I pootler rather than speedster, it also means i stop and take in the scenery whilst U turning! I find at 100mm it climbs well without lifting or being light up front and at 130mm gives a bit more stability on the return home.<br /> I originally went for Rev&#39;s as at the time following discussions on here and comments from Cy about Pike&#39;s being beyond the bike&#39;s recommended travel ( the 08 is a Mk I frame, 130mm max. not the current 2010 version ) and it would invalidate the frame&#39;s warranty. They were also a cheaper option and my first foray into modern forks!<br /> I&#39;m now seriously considering going to the new frame, and when finances allow, can update to Pikes&#39;, mainly because of a maxle option, but have to think a bit and open mothballed purse.....<br /> From the Cotic website, Cy has apparently released frames to the mag&#39;s for reviews. Might hang on for a read.<br /> As my first new bike since &#39;96, it&#39;s been a total revelation. I really enjoy using it and am very impressed.<br /> my tuppence!<br /> Q </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1153961 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:19:39 +0000 iamsporticus 1153961@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Thanks everyone!</p> <p>It looks like most are running 100-120mm forks<br /> With a few Pikes screwed down to 120mm too</p> <p>In fact only Cy seems to be running at 140mm, although he didnt actually say if his Thors are reigned in or not</p> <p>Any reasons for this?<br /> Doesnt it like the geometry at 140 or do you lot just happen to have smaller travel forks knocking around the shed when you built your Souls up?</p> <p>Coming from a full suss again I am looking for a more undiluted ride but I dont want to end up regretting it when its rocky and so am curious about running at 140mm myself</p> <p>Cheers </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1150556 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:27:19 +0000 Tricone 1150556@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Good to hear the Simple will not be forgotten. A higher end Cotic ss would be interesting (although my Simple is great and I cant imagine it much better!).<br /> I would agree though that the adjusters are fiddly - I put on a surly chaintug which just ended up being easier to deal with. The disc mount is fine for my XT brakes (cant imagine why you would need any others - they have worked flawlessly for me for 2 years).<br /> Maybe a titanium option with a split chainstay to allow a belt drive all with the new Soda tubeset and perfect Cotic geometry would be ideal.</p> <p>Would you consider a 29er singlespeed? - it seems to be a common direction for them or would this be a big no no in the Cotic world?<br /> Lots of things to think about I would imagine. Best of luck with future projects. I look forward to seeing what will appear. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1146960 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:10:11 +0000 topangarider 1146960@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Designing other stuff Cy? Ooh do tell?</p> <p>How about a nice balance bike for my little one?! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1146807 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:29:43 +0000 cy 1146807@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The XL thing has been explained before, but basically not enough demand. I sold 4 frames in 2 years and then had to sell off the other 5. If 10 of you got together and gave me deposits I&#39;d put an order in with the next build, but that&#39;s the only way it&#39;d work.</p> <p>I&#39;m not forgetting singlespeeders at all, but just need to think about what people want out of the Simple now that&#39;s it&#39;s reached a natural break in production. It&#39;s another one that&#39;s on the borderline of sensible production due to numbers sold. It seems to fall between two stools - i.e. not cheap enough and too nice to be a suck it and see SS (the Inbred has that covered), but not nice/boutique enough for people who swallow the pill and go off and buy Spots and IF&#39;s and such like. I also want to make the frame end/disc mount area work better because post mount brakes disagree with it in some ways, and the adjusters are good but fiddly. I&#39;m designing a lot of other stuff right now so it&#39;s bottom of the list for the moment. Sorry. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1146545 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:55:36 +0000 Tricone 1146545@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Slugfarm - interesting to hear you say if the soda came as a singlespeed you would have your order in already. I have a Simple and is the best bike I have owned in 20 years of mountain biking .... but a titanium Cotic singlespeed!! I would be right behind you.<br /> I am a bit worried to hear Cy is no longer making Simples and is reassessing them. I know Cy is not a singlespeed fan but please dont forget about us! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1146522 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:43:43 +0000 slugfarm 1146522@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Hmmm - apparently I have a little more to learn about posting pics on this forum. Guess you&#39;ve all seen hot looking Souls before anyway... <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1146520 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:40:53 +0000 slugfarm 1146520@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <br /> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1146516 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:12:20 +0000 slugfarm 1146516@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://www.flickr.com/photos/40047616@N05/4367293870/"><br /> &#39;09 small Soul in Builder&#39;s Tea, or as I tend to think of it, Flesh... Old photo - I&#39;ve sorted out the stem height and length since.<br /> Magura Durin 120 fork, full XT gruppo, except for XTR shifters.<br /> All bearings are Chris King, as he makes them just up the road a bit.<br /> Seatpost, stem and bars are Ritchey XCS in wet white, which would look a lot cooler with a tan seat, but what can you do? Stem is 90 mm. I&#39;m 5&#39;7&#39;&#39;<br /> Stan&#39;s Arch 360 wheels, King hubs, 2.5 tubeless Nobby Nic tires (no &#39;y&#39;, as this is America and all...).<br /> My only bike and I love it. Mostly medium and long-distance XC (15 to 80 miles), good Pacific Northwest singletrack. good fast bike, climbs like a dream, even more fun going down, and a blast on technical stuff - rocks and roots, drop-offs and such. I rarely pine for a full suspension. If I were to replace it I&#39;d go with a Soda, and if the Soda came in SS i&#39;d already have an order in. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1144249 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:21:12 +0000 Edric 64 1144249@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Apparently not enough of us big sods bought the xl they used to do quickly enough so they dropped it from the range.Shame as they look really nice </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1144151 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:57:54 +0000 bigyinn 1144151@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Thats a point Cy, why nothing bigger than 19&quot;? Limited demand?<br /> Im 6&#39;5&quot; and i just dont think a 19&quot; would be big enough. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1144031 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:25:35 +0000 Edric 64 1144031@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Some nice looking bikes here.I considered a Soul as my next frame until I realised they didn&#39;t do it in adult sizes ,19inch? way to small even with a 400mm pin </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1143728 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 12:10:22 +0000 topangarider 1143728@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4321545247_ee04b0416e_o.jpg"><br /> Built last summer - still the same (Had Larson TTs on in the summer, Bonty ACXs at the mo) - Magura Menja 130AM, XT, XT on Mavic 717 wheels. Old LX discs, 70mm stem - think it&#39;s about right - maybe trying 80mm.</p> <p>Only mtb so does everything from trail centres, peaks/lakes/dales and also endurance events (Wiggle, SITS etc)</p> <p>Damn fine bike. Was out on Sunday and some red sock rambler even mumbled as I rode past &quot;that&#39;s the best bike - the Cotic&quot;! Peed my mates off a bit! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1143360 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:32:17 +0000 Stiggy 1143360@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Big tyres all the way! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1143182 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:34:54 +0000 cy 1143182@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>@iamsporticus - you&#39;ll be spot on with what you&#39;re talking about. The great thing about the Soul (in my biased opinion) is that because it&#39;s not pretending to be a race bike or a jump bike, but just a bike for riding around on, it wears good solid kit really well. Get some 120mm forks (maybe with adjustable travel if you fancy), get some SLX or XT, get some nice wide tyres, fast rear/grippy front and you&#39;ll be loving it. </p> <p>The new Soda is very Soul like in it&#39;s responses. I stiffened it up along the length of the bike so it&#39;s about the same stiffness in torsion as the Soul these days. (Torsional stiffness along the length of the frame is what most people perceive as the &#39;ride feel&#39; by the way). People were beginning to complain about wayward behaviour on the original design as bar width, tyre grip and fork stiffness progressed. The new one feels quite similar to a Soul when pushing on, but a bit softer edged and a lot lighter. I&#39;ve always said the most noticeable and giggly difference between the two frames is the weight. A Soda just lights up in a way a Soul never would. It&#39;s also very, very pretty in the brushed/blast graphics finish <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1143112 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:05:26 +0000 ononeorange 1143112@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Look hard under those cushions as it will be well worth it! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1142817 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:00:29 +0000 iamsporticus 1142817@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Cheers everyone</p> <p>Im not sure its helped me decide what I want but Im enjoying the thread <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>After years riding FS I need a hard tail<br /> It looks like it might be a Soul and will prob be at the longer end of the fork spectrum but not too hardcore </p> <p>Now if I take a look under the sofa cushions how much more do I need for a Soda and would it be worth it........... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1141975 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:08:01 +0000 Vortexracing 1141975@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>That makes a lot more sense than most posts on here Stiggy, p!$$ed or not <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>cheers, carbon one it may be then.</p> <p>and don&#39;t aplogise for being at the pub, I wish I was. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/who-has-a-soul-and-what-do-you-do-with-it/page/2#post-1141738 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:57:25 +0000 Stiggy 1141738@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Sorry I&#39;ve just got in from work, I find the carbon post a lot more comfortable than the thomson I had before, the thomson was great on the full suss but the carbon just seems to take the edge off the err &#39;judders&#39; a bit. Sorry I&#39;ve been to the pub so probably don&#39;t make a lot of sense <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>