http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1 en-US Wed, 30 May 2012 01:21:21 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-882754 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:43:55 +0000 AndyRT 882754@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Thanks!</p> <p>I look forward to trying it out! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-882734 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:38:18 +0000 glenp 882734@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Aye - open. Wednesday nights are v busy usually, so might get a bit more feedback tomorrow. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-882691 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:46 +0000 AndyRT 882691@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>is the ending now officially open then? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-882688 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:22 +0000 freeridenick 882688@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>djglover - you naughty boy, i know exactly what you <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> are talking about </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-882649 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:23:15 +0000 bigsi 882649@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The new ending to BKB was great fun riding it in the dark for the first time tonight. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> That 2nd new berm (i call it &quot;The Wall&quot;) just seems to disappear downwards into the dark but is oh so fast once you know what to expect and having it ending at the bottom of the bridleway that climbs back up the hill is a good idea as well.</p> <p>Top marks for all those who made it happen,,, although its a shame the old ending <u>had</u> to go </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-881763 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:06:10 +0000 bobster 881763@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Rode it for the first time tonight - new section is awesome! Almost 3 abreast trying to overtake on the berms on the final run <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_razz.gif" title=":-P" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-878710 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:01:34 +0000 glenp 878710@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Sorry grantway, but you can write a very long wish list for trails here (sustainability, fun, flow, weather resistance, suitability for all etc etc) and get no-where near needing to boost your progress as a rider. The Hurtwood are to be thanked and appreciated for engaging with mountain biking and doing what they can to accommodate us - they have no need or desire to encourage the type of riding that you are missing… and as you point out similar scrabbly slopes do exist nearby if you know where to look.</p> <p>If we all keep up the good work of being responsible and not tearing up the woods (plus slowing to a crawl when we go past walkers, horses and anyone working) then the land owners will continue to look favourably on us. As will folk such as Surrey Hills AONB, who are very much behind people coming to enjoy our open spaces and maybe boost the local economy at the same time. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-877444 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:54:22 +0000 djglover 877444@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The best ending to BKB is neither of these <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-877383 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:36:32 +0000 grantway 877383@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Firstly you guys are doing great work<br /> But Ilike that cliff face finish its puka<br /> cant change that. Its what trail riding is all about<br /> Its a natural part of the Forest, also how to progress<br /> as a rider.<br /> I just hope you dont change the similar finish to a trail in Pitch Hill.<br /> Cant you leave the old finish as an optional end to the trail? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-877317 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:21:09 +0000 davefarmer 877317@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Rode the new 650 metres of trail today, great fun.</p> <p>It was the only dry and firm part of the whole surreyhills.</p> <p>A much better faster ending to the trail than that horrible skid down the fall line that was the previous ending.</p> <p>Definately in keeping with what the surreyhills is all about to me, swoopy woodland singletrack. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-874358 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:59:39 +0000 geetee1972 874358@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>And finance it. You can all help by donating to the hurtwood friends charity. All the money is used for maintenance and development and you can give as much or little as you like. Details on the hurtwood website. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-874011 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:42:28 +0000 Cheezpleez 874011@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Looks good. Can&#39;t wait to check it out. A big thanks to everyone who helped build it </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-873182 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:58:05 +0000 njee20 873182@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I rode past on the road bike about 10 and people certainly seemed to be enjoying it, maybe if it had been drier I&#39;d have had a go on the Madone!</p> <p>Good work to all involved! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-873168 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:52:59 +0000 theotherjonv 873168@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>+1 to all the good comments on here, flows really well and by the time I rode (twice) it at about 10 ish this morning it looked like there&#39;s been a few down it!!</p> <p>As said a bit above, I can&#39;t see any reason why anyone would need to lock up and skid, they&#39;d have to be shockingly bad or deliberate / inconsiderate. The only bit that even really needs any significant braking is the s-bend before the big RH berm near the end, and that was only where I was a bit &#39;positive&#39; on the approach first time down it!! But it does seem as if a few have made that mistake, the surface is a bit looser as a result.</p> <p><img src="http://images51.fotki.com/v748/photos/8/886335/5901158/DSC01417-vi.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-871802 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:38:47 +0000 southernstaffy 871802@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>well we managed to keep most people off with a bit of diligence and with some help from some volunteers we finished it off last weekend and the trail was opened a few days ago.</p> <p>Lots of people riding and enjoying it today (many of them phoning their mates telling them what they were missing).</p> <p>Thanks to everyone who stayed off or helped! We&#39;ll be keeping an eye on how it beds in as there is bound to be bits to sort.</p> <p>Zulu - The berms have lots of reinforcement and stones (and will have more) on the inside to slow and control water to prevent erosion. Their design also prevent shortcutting which is one of the issues with rolling crowns - and they&#39;re a lot more fun! We also don&#39;t have the right sort of geology for robust crowns, just sand and small sandstone bits. The sandy berms also absorb and drain through them and channel water less than in stoney areas.</p> <p>geetee - good to chat to you at the bus shelter and congrats again onb the baby, i&#39;m pretty sure that your email address bounces these days so you may not get the email we discussed.</p> <p>catch up with you soon glenp/bent udder </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-839362 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:42:17 +0000 LenHankie 839362@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Pretty sad indication of people&#39;s skill level if they couldn&#39;t get down the existing finish without locking up and ripping it to shreds. Having said that, I think the new ending looks great and stopping damage caused by bikes and therefore alienating residents can only be a good thing.</p> <p>Looks like the tape didn&#39;t last too long though... some hefty wooden barricades/logs would have more effect I hope. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-835838 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:44:42 +0000 Sonor 835838@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>grade reversals are good, but the berms &#39;aint gonna shed water, it&#39;ll scour out in no time - nobody heard of rolling crowns round there? </blockquote></p> <p>Would be interesting to know your thinking Z11. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-835664 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:58:44 +0000 brooess 835664@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>&#39;Bike Danger Trail&#39; don&#39;t you just love the BBC! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-835567 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:33:03 +0000 glenp 835567@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Local knowledge and experience tells us that the yellow sand berms will solidify and hold firm once they have a period of consolidation - provided people can keep off it for a few weeks it will shed water and be durable.</p> <p>The builder is one of the most experienced specialist diggers in the country - he most certainly <em>has</em> heard of rolling crowns!</p> <p>As for more riders coming - well we can&#39;t have it both ways. Surrey Hills AONB have provided funds to help us from their sustainable development money - stimulating the local economy and increasing appreciation of the countryside is a good thing, not something to be avoided. I&#39;ve lived here all my life and I&#39;ve never felt like I wanted visitors to not come and enjoy. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/now-barry-knows-better-1/page/3#post-835519 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:21:55 +0000 Zulu-Eleven 835519@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>grade reversals are good, but the berms &#39;aint gonna shed water, it&#39;ll scour out in no time - nobody heard of rolling crowns round there? </p>