http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:18:15 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1097547 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:24:23 +0000 S_Works 1097547@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Happy now! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1097535 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:21:27 +0000 blue_mountain_goat 1097535@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>ah..... Very Nice. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1097469 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:05:10 +0000 S_Works 1097469@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>One more of Mr Goat.<br /> <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/gstacey/_V5N2384asSmartObject-1.jpg"></p> <p>Chakaping, what number were you? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1096905 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:26:21 +0000 PeterPoddy 1096905@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>One last bump just in case anybody else would like to pay me £2 for a pic of themselves racing, all money going to Help for Heros.</p> <p>Please email me on <a href="mailto:peterpoddy@googlemail.com">peterpoddy@googlemail.com</a> with your race number, and I&#39;ll see if I have a shot of you. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p><strong>Also, I&#39;ve made £22 so far. </p> <p>Not bad considering it was only a suggestion from Joolze that I should do this.</strong> </p> <p>Thanks everyone!:D </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1093086 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:59:07 +0000 chakaping 1093086@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>You checked yesterday thanks Pete. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1093071 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:56:12 +0000 PeterPoddy 1093071@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Nobody managed to take my picture.</p> <p>I&#39;m starting to wonder if it was all a strange dream.<br /> </blockquote></p> <p>Have you asked me? If not, what was your race number please?</p> <p>Also, have a look in my <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/peter_atkin/sets/72157623201604531/">HONESTY BOX</a>. If you take one from here please bung me £2 on Paypal - It&#39;s all for Help for Heros. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1093003 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:43:52 +0000 blue_mountain_goat 1093003@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>.. and nicks&#39; dad&#39;s ones feature mr goat (just about) on his one wheeler </blockquote></p> <p>mmmmm... this ones better! <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> <br /> <a href="http://joolzedymond.com/photocart/index.php?do=photocart&amp;viewImage=75976" rel="nofollow">http://joolzedymond.com/photocart/index.php?do=photocart&amp;viewImage=75976</a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1092901 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:28:23 +0000 chakaping 1092901@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Nobody managed to take my picture.</p> <p>I&#39;m starting to wonder if it was all a strange dream. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1092870 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:23:05 +0000 DezB 1092870@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Found some more pics (Mike, I think) @ 1st gear cycles <a href="http://www.1stgearcycles.com/gallery.vc" rel="nofollow">http://www.1stgearcycles.com/gallery.vc</a></p> <p>.. and nicks&#39; dad&#39;s ones feature mr goat (just about) on his one wheeler <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1092760 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:04:26 +0000 JamesP 1092760@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Happened to me at the Bordon Enduro. Nut on spindle worked its way off. Lost cage part of pedal in the mud, had to ride the second half of the lap with just the spidle on the drive side. Horrible.</p> <p>To make matters worse it was a 3ti eggbeater <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1092382 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:35:21 +0000 Ti29er 1092382@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Yes.<br /> It was one of the cheap ones.<br /> You can manage on the spindle, not ideal.<br /> The same happened to me at the Montane Kilder 100, 37 miles into the course, but that was not a technical as Sunday&#39;s ride. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1092340 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:27:17 +0000 chakaping 1092340@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Did anybody else see the poor lonely Eggbeater pedal that had obviously fallen off of somebody&#39;s bike on the heath bit around the 5 or 6 mile mark?</p> <p>Somebody must have had one sore leg yesterday, if they went on and finished without it. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090563 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:09:55 +0000 PeterPoddy 1090563@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>but I think the course yesterday, once I&#39;ve got my bearings will be good for a bit more of a workout and longer rides</blockquote></p> <p>Oh yes. That&#39;s the biggest hill in these parts! <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>Anyone else want a photo?<br /> Email me your race number (in profile) and I&#39;ll have a look see if I&#39;ve got you. £2 a pic, all money to Help for Heros. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090515 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:55:15 +0000 chakaping 1090515@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>nicks - your dad&#39;s photos are excellent </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090512 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:55:05 +0000 njee20 1090512@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Huh? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090499 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:52:13 +0000 Ti29er 1090499@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>It was interesting doing that event, just to witness what Steve Heading can actually do!<br /> It&#39;s all well racing &#39;round and &#39;round a loop, but add in map reading across the Paek District and time / distance management, and then see how many of the points he visited in the same time frame. Simply awesome!</p> <p>They were one of the sponsors and having chatted to them and received some of the products, it seemed pretty good and effective. On the last day, I was about 25 seconds inside the 5hr cut-off time. Boy! Did I have to run-for-home in that last hour, as hard an hour as I&#39;ve ever had on a bike! I still makes me smile. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090492 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:49:19 +0000 nicks 1090492@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>great course, really good day out riding! </p> <p>6 laps, 7 energy gels, 3 mule bars and 2.5 bottles of electrolyte</p> <p>thanks to Si and the army team !!</p> <p>my dads pictures here</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/23318875@N02/collections/72157606984867287/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/23318875@N02/collections/72157606984867287/</a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090455 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:40:42 +0000 dobo 1090455@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>excellent course, only rode one complete lap though as i was cursed with punctures... i had 3, 1 in the front side wall which sealed but required several stops, then got double whammy on the rear 2 miles in on the second lap, again in the sidewall, not a snake bite though, so called it a day and walked back.<br /> I deliberately did not walk through the finish line when i came back as i took a short cut or 2 but they must have spotted me and recorded my time for the 2nd lap hehe thanks <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> must have walked 2 miles atleast..<br /> very frustrating though as i felt pretty good after 1st lap as i didnt go out to fast due to congestion on the course.</p> <p>thanks to those that offered me a tube and a chat, and to thoose that told me to mtfu and get back on my bike lol </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090332 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:59:11 +0000 JamesP 1090332@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Not seen it. There seens to plenty of new entrants to the energy foods market. Personally I am not sure about Pro Slam - wtf <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090223 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:23:00 +0000 Ti29er 1090223@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Thanks.<br /> I have the Zimm and now the one njee mentioned.<br /> What I found at Bonty was the sweat &#39;n&#39; sour chicken with rice from the canteen went down a treat!<br /> Whislt my oppo&#39; was puking up Smash (never again he swears!) I was feeling great at 3am. My 2x dogs liked the Smash however!<br /> As you say, go easy on the caffine gels. The SIS ones are vile but are over and done with in 10 seconds.<br /> Torq stuff generally seems very good.<br /> Cheers for the advice from the front.</p> <p>PS - have you used this stuff, which was being handed out at the Summer Polaris (7hrs on the Saturday, 5hrs on the Sunday over the Peaks)?</p> <p><a href="http://www.cnpprofessional.co.uk/goals/endurance.html/">&quot;CNP&#39;s Pro Energy Max Gel has been developed in conjunction with British Cycling and the Sky Pro Cycling Team and is used by their riders.<br /> Pro Energy Max Gel can be used by cyclists of any level to give a boost during their ride.&quot;</a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090192 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:13:50 +0000 njee20 1090192@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Whilst I find High 5 very easy to drink, but couldn&#39;t comprehend drinking SIS, which is truly revolting IMO, so basically you just need to try lots of different drinks to see what you like! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090190 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:13:42 +0000 JamesP 1090190@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Btw, for 12 and 24 hour races you should consider Hammer Nutrition HEED. Very light on the palate and easy to stomache. Just started to become available over here now - its a US product. Its going to be my drink of choice for Mayhem and 24:12. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090179 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:11:00 +0000 JamesP 1090179@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The Elete stuff is good you can&#39;t taste it at all. High 5 source is nice but very sticky. By day 3 or the Tour of Wessex last year I could barely get my bottle out of the cage - stuck fast with High 5.</p> <p>Speaking of getting fuelling wrong. I rode La Marmotte last year and in my infinite wisdom used High 5 Energy Source Extreme (i.e. with caffeine) and Torq Guarana gels. 8hrs 43 mins from the start I crossed the line having consumed 10 torq gels and 8 bottles of High 5. The problem was I was so pumped full of caffeine I couldn&#39;t think straight or sit still. It took me 30 mins to translate the fact that D&#39;Or meant I&#39;d got a gold standard time. </p> <p>I think the trick with cafeine is to use it sparingly. The Torq gels are brilliant but only every couple of hours - not every gel. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090176 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:10:42 +0000 njee20 1090176@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m wary of any &#39;isotonic&#39; product that claims to provide electrolytes, as they just don&#39;t work for me. Tried High 5, Torq, Maxim and Power Bar, none have had any effect on cramp, Zym or Nuun effervescent tabs are good, but then you don&#39;t get any carbohydrates so need to up your intake of gels/bars, or this Elete water seems good. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090174 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:09:47 +0000 Ti29er 1090174@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Ta.<br /> I&#39;ll try it; ordered it just now - they do like their web pages in the transaction don&#39;t they!<br /> Quite a claim <blockquote>Eliminates cramp . Enhances energy. </blockquote> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090165 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:06:45 +0000 atlaz 1090165@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>PP - Swinley is fine for a quick blast but I think the course yesterday, once I&#39;ve got my bearings will be good for a bit more of a workout and longer rides (I&#39;m not into sessioning so much). I noticed a lot of built trails cutting across the stuff we were riding that should be worth an explore.</p> <p>On the subject of cramp, I&#39;m going to take a bottle for whenever I race next as I have a can of powdered supplement for electrolyte replacement I used for one of those &quot;standing around in a hot field for hours in summer&quot; type sports. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090164 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:06:45 +0000 njee20 1090164@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Sorry, the Elete water. </p> <p>You can add it to anything you want, from water to squash or your choice of energy drink (I find High 5 most palatable) to provide electrolytes.</p> <p><a href="http://www.eletewater.co.uk/">Clicky</a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090158 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:04:24 +0000 Ti29er 1090158@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The High5 or the Elete - which I&#39;m not familiar with.<br /> Cramp&#39;s a sod - plenty of people here report cramping up.<br /> On Meridas, I chew salt sachets from McD&#39;s - seems to work, if a little difficult to manage!</p> <p>+1 H4H contribution too. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090143 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:00:48 +0000 njee20 1090143@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I tried Elete water in High 5 yesterday for the first time. Whilst I wasn&#39;t trying particularly hard, I suspect I would&#39;ve cramped without any supplement, I always used to cramp like clockwork while racing.</p> <p>I&#39;d recommend trying that, just add a few drops (literally) to whatever you drink, doesn&#39;t affect the taste, so you don&#39;t have to worry about a different taste. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090135 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:57:57 +0000 Ti29er 1090135@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I appreciate this.<br /> Yesterday was a mere 4hrs+, so it was always going to be ridden at a quicker pace than a 12 or 24hr ride.<br /> We did Bonty Pairs in 2009, came 10th I think, plus pairs in the Set2Rise but I managed to feeding / energy / rest / effort balance quite effectively.</p> <p>So for the event in May, for which I have 100+ days in which still to train, I am in a far better place this time this year than I was last year, so the Brass Monkey was no more than good training, seeing how the bike behaved, reminding myself about cramp (!) and feeding in particular. Plus I must sort out my front mech&#39; as having no steep, granny-ring hills locally it&#39;s something I was unaware of. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/4#post-1090123 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:54:03 +0000 Gee-Jay 1090123@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Peterpoddy +1 (other than the living in Farnborough bit, I&#39;m in Fleeeeeet) </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090121 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:53:46 +0000 njee20 1090121@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Aye, but you got the sciency bit in there!</p> <p>When I did the 12 hour solo at 24/12, I did about 12 Torq gels, a tub of mini muffins, 2 tubes of Jaffa Cakes, a few Torq bars, a couple of Snickers, some jelly babies, a few bottles of High 5 and several caffeinated Zym tablets. I got it right in that I never had cramp, and posted my fastest laps towards the end of the race, I got it wrong in that I finished with loads of energy left and feeling I should&#39;ve gone harder.</p> <p>At the end of the day, it&#39;s going to be trial and error! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090113 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:51:34 +0000 PeterPoddy 1090113@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>The whole course open to the public then?</blockquote></p> <p>Yup. And a lot more besides, probably twice as much again in that area alone, actually. Maybe more. I live in Farnborough and I can ride from my house (3 road miles to the trails) and do a 20 mile loop, including some of those trails, that only touches roads to cross them: So 99.999% offroad then!</p> <p>And you wonder why I avoid Swinley like that plague? <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090105 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:48:56 +0000 JamesP 1090105@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Njee - got there before me <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090103 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:48:12 +0000 JamesP 1090103@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The general rule of thumb is that your body will only be able to process about 1gram of carbohydrate per 1kg of body mass per hour. So if you are 70kgs you can only process 70grams of carbs per hour. Anything in excess of this will be wasted and IME sits in your stomache and makes you feel decidedly ropey. </p> <p>How you get your carbs is up to you but a combination of complex and simple carbs usually makes most sense. A gel has approximately (depending on brand) 30grams of carbs. So for a 70kg person they would be looking to make up the 40grams elsewhere. Energy drinks are usually the easiest way of doing so. Over 24hours however, I would use gels, bars, energy drinks and then whatever you feel like eating. At some point you will get sick of sweet foods and you&#39;ll be thankful then.</p> <p>IME a strategy of just stuffing yourself with gels and energy drink is not a good one. Some consideration on how much you need (and can) consume will make things more tolerable. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090087 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:46:10 +0000 atlaz 1090087@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Me, 32 minutes? I was closer to 1hr 32minutes </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090082 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:44:52 +0000 njee20 1090082@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Aye that was me, by the lake, I realised it was you and give you a &#39;bad luck Tim&#39;. Bike was surprisingly nice, much more comfortable than I&#39;d expected.</p> <p>Yes I&#39;ve been a victim of the &#39;crap on the rotor affecting braking&#39; before. I managed it with an errant gel. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090073 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:43:17 +0000 Ti29er 1090073@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>How did the new steed fair njee?</p> <p>You came past me once that I know of, and said &quot;Hi&quot; - or at least I think it was you (I was fixing a new inner tube by the far side of the reservoir) but since you did 3 laps, you must have passed me a 2nd time.</p> <p>One by product of having a large flint slice open your tyre, spewing out the tubeless gunk, is that the first you use your back brake you realise your rear rotor is coated in slippery gunk, thus rendering your rear brake completely useless! It gave me quite a surprise!</p> <p>Not sure that completing 5 laps and ending up 46 out of 59 in the vet&#39;s 4hr was technically last, but it&#39;s a matter of perspective I guess. I was the last of those who managed 5 laps, in the same way that Simon Lewington came last with his 7 laps (to those who&#39;d ridden 7 laps but faster than him). I don&#39;t think he&#39;d consider himself to be last somehow! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090072 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:42:57 +0000 njee20 1090072@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Yep.</p> <p>And he did Mayhem solo on a gel and a bottle of energy drink a lap, plus one soup and a microwave spag bol IIRC, wasn&#39;t doing bars I don&#39;t think.</p> <p>Just because that&#39;s what the chap who won Kielder was eating doesn&#39;t mean you should be eating it too, different people have different metabolisms etc. </p> <p>Let&#39;s be honest, you&#39;re not going to win, you just need to concentrate on plodding on, and working out what food/supplements you need to do that. </p> <p>I&#39;m not being funny, but 4.5 hours is not a particularly long ride, if you were that much of a wreck after that, I&#39;d be seriously worried. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/merida-brass-monkeys/page/3#post-1090037 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:33:14 +0000 allthepies 1090037@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>George Budd - gee on here.</p> <p>You&#39;ll see him up the top in the results of the 2 hr <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>