http://singletrackworld.com/forum/tags/that-steel-hardtail-debate-again en-US Wed, 30 May 2012 01:16:13 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1330373 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:23:02 +0000 esselgruntfuttock 1330373@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><em>The best frame is the one that fits you and the<br /> way you like to ride the best. </p> <p>All on this thread are the best for somebody.</em></p> <p> Never a truer word spoken.<br /> This is best for me. My custom built Fleet ( I believe It&#39;s the only one in captivity)</p> <p> <img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4528709667_cbdd7b3b62.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329854 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:12:45 +0000 ononeorange 1329854@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>awelch - Same size as you (exactly) and I have a 21&quot; P7 and a 20&quot; Inbred. Inbred is probably the better fit.</p> <p>All above are ace but for me the Soul has it. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329827 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:05:17 +0000 awelch 1329827@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Jamie : that looks like Dalby forest. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329651 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:53:12 +0000 _tom_ 1329651@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>If I could afford a 2nd XC bike I&#39;d go for a Duster, they look great and apparently have a shorter TT than most which would be perfect for me <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329634 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:39:16 +0000 wishiwascalledsteve 1329634@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Either the DMR Trailstar if you want a hardcore bike, i loved mine, could not only keep up with folk on full suss but usually overtake and leave them standing. With the added fun of a stiff back end.<br /> For XC i&#39;m really liking my Charge Duster, only had a it a coupleof months, but i&#39;m impressed with so far.<br /> <img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/4523735380_473166df86.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329610 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:24:28 +0000 cynic-al 1329610@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2169725448_647e0b6852.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329572 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:02:02 +0000 Jamie 1329572@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>*skip to the end*</p> <p>Taa Daa!</p> <p><img src="http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4020/photozwf.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329546 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:49:40 +0000 awelch 1329546@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>That&#39;s weird because it says:<br /> C Effective Top Tube Horizontal (mm) 546 589 602 612<br /> &quot;effective&quot;</p> <p>on the website?<br /> whereas the diagram is misleading? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/4#post-1329395 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:34:59 +0000 Woody 1329395@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>That&#39;s what it looks like in the diagram - doesn&#39;t seen to fit with &#39;effective&#39; unless you ar running no seatpost! I&#39;ve just measured my 18&quot; and from centre of headtube (where toptube meets) to centre of seatpost measured horizontally is exactly 610mm ie. the &#39;C&#39; measurement but parallel to floor</p> <p><img src="http://www.on-one.co.uk/images/bike_frame_geometry.gif"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329370 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:21:10 +0000 _tom_ 1329370@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>_tom_: Gravitydropper makes 26,8 posts, check them out. Should be quite reliable product I think. I ride Trailstar mkIII with 130mm Marzocchi btw</blockquote></p> <p>Didn&#39;t realise that, they only seem to sell the 27.2 version on CRC etc. Gravity dropper probably wouldn&#39;t lower the post enough for anyone on a 16&quot; frame though (I&#39;m guessing), as the seat would need to be quite high anyway and GDs can only go down 4&quot; I think? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329361 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:15:44 +0000 awelch 1329361@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>do kona frames come up smaller? Aha, so kona&#39;s top tube measurement is effective top tube length whereas the on-one is a measure from centre head tube to centre seat tube I think?</p> <p>Andy </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329327 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:54:15 +0000 RealMan 1329327@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>You should get a NS surge.</blockquote></p> <p>Everyone should get an NS surge, then wire their doorbell up to a small hammer type device so it strikes the downtube. </p> <p>I swear its the most tuneful bike frame I&#39;ve ever come across. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329322 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:47:56 +0000 pascoa341 1329322@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>If you want a quality frame with rack eyelets, the Genesis altitude is always a good bet. Nice frame and available in a 21&quot; size. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329319 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:47:22 +0000 thumbie 1329319@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Totally off topic but Qwerty, where did you get that stand?</p> <p>Cheers </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329303 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:30:50 +0000 Woody 1329303@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>There is only 13mm difference between the effective t/t length on the 456 and P7 and only 0.5 deg in the head angle with seattube angle identical. 456 is 2-300 gms heavier </p> <p>Really comes down to <em><strong>is the P7 worth £300 more?</strong></em> in which case you are getting into Soul, R8 territory and other 853&#39;s ........Ho hum <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329265 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:02:33 +0000 awelch 1329265@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The best fitting bike I ever had was a 21&quot; orange p7 from 2005. I like the feel the bike under me, especially seeing as I&#39;m going to be doing a long distance off-road tour on it... on the on one sizing chart the top tube comes up slightly shorter on the inbred than the 20&quot; caldera that I currently own (I had an explosif before that). The caldera feels a bit short (top tube length wise) + also a little cramped leg wise. I&#39;ve got long legs and arms! Anyway, I&#39;ll keep my eye out. Some good bikes here but they all have a lot of seat tube sticking out. However.... saying all this I tried a 21&quot; voodoo bizango and that felt long at the time. I rode about 12000km on the 20&quot; explosif but it had adjustable stem and big risers on it. I think for long distance a bigger frame is better, but I don&#39;t want to overdo it. I think the Orange p7 looks really nice, personally. The inbred is also awesome, especially if they were to do one size up...</p> <p>I&#39;m looking for a frame with rack eyelets at the dropout, doesn&#39;t have to have v-brake mounts thought. This rules out the charge duster, the cove handjob, the dekerf frames. blah blah. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329240 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:43:16 +0000 Ola 1329240@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I&#39;m riding a DMR Trailstar LT ...<br /> Only thing I don&#39;t like about it is that the seatpost is a bit thin at 26.8mm, means you can&#39;t run a dropper on it if thats your kinda thing. </blockquote></p> <p>_tom_: Gravitydropper makes 26,8 posts, check them out. Should be quite reliable product I think. I ride Trailstar mkIII with 130mm Marzocchi btw</p> <p>Ola </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329117 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:19:27 +0000 khani 1329117@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af349/khani123/100_0232.jpg"><br /> large soul </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329023 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:22:29 +0000 mrh86 1329023@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Im 6ft 5&quot; and ride a 20&quot; 456. Maybe a little on the small side but its fine really! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329003 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:08:19 +0000 skiboy 1329003@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>+1 for chunkypaul and the EVIL SOVEREIGN.</p> <p>building mine at present.</p> <p>END OF THREAD. </p>