timp en-US Wed, 30 May 2012 01:11:14 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3834174 Mon, 28 May 2012 16:31:27 +0000 therag 3834174@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Pimpmaster Jazz - Member</p> <p>Preferably german</p> <p>Out of interest, why? Statistically not all they're cracked up to be on the whole (especially the higher end / 'luxury' cars - lots to go wrong)</p> <p>I've had an a3 a bora and a sprinter amongst many other vehicles and always prefered these. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3834109 Mon, 28 May 2012 16:11:44 +0000 Bikingcatastrophe 3834109@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>While not necessarily as "fun" to drive as others mentioned above I would look for a Mondeo or Vectra hatch. Diesels are pretty economical, there are loads of them, generally cheap as chips to maintain (Vectras are on 20,000 mile service intervals) and very spacious. Both are pretty reasonable to insure as well. Had a Passat estate before (2001-2004) which was very nice and huge. Newer models however seem to have lost some of that spark and reliability. Also pretty expensive for what they are. If you go a bit smaller the Focus or Astra will give you good reliability, economy and there are some fun option amongst them. Skoda Octavia a good sound car that will be cheap and reliable but (aside from the VRS) couldn't really be described as fun to drive either. Avensis - a truly horrific car to drive. Had a hire one for a couple of weeks a few years ago and it was, without question, THE worst car I have ever driven. Well, apart from an American car - but that's to be expected. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3834069 Mon, 28 May 2012 16:02:28 +0000 edlong 3834069@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Volvo? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3833953 Mon, 28 May 2012 15:20:43 +0000 Pimpmaster Jazz 3833953@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Preferably german</blockquote></p> <p>Out of interest, why? Statistically not all they're cracked up to be on the whole (especially the higher end / 'luxury' cars - lots to go wrong) </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3833949 Mon, 28 May 2012 15:19:11 +0000 Pimpmaster Jazz 3833949@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Mondeo ST 155 estate.</p> <p>Quick, handles reasonably well and has oodles of torque for everyday driving.</p> <p>Could be found for £6k (just) when I was hunting a few years back, so should be down to £5k for a semi-decent one now. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3833809 Mon, 28 May 2012 14:40:43 +0000 thisisnotaspoon 3833809@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>so may end up going for a c max or mondeo </blockquote></p> <p>I'd probably go for the mondeo estate if you could find one for the same price/miles, my C-max just happend to be what the garrage had and I needed a car there and then, it's been great but you do become the but of "it's the S-line version don't you know" Audi driving STW'ers* telling you that your life is over and you have adopted middle aged conformity.</p> <p>*the correct resposne is obviously to ask them how many photocopiers they've sold this month. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3832985 Mon, 28 May 2012 10:46:24 +0000 therag 3832985@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I'm looking for the same car as a 2nd vehicle because the wife wrote off our old reliable bora. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> <br /> Preferably german, but on the odd occasion that I can't use my van I don't want to rock up to a trail centre in an Audi a4 estate with bike on top and get stoned to death!<br /> On the short list<br /> Mercedes c220<br /> BMW 320<br /> Audi a4 sorry<br /> Passat<br /> But all I can find for my £4500 has + 115000 miles so may end up going for a c max or mondeo </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3832651 Mon, 28 May 2012 08:46:33 +0000 hora 3832651@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Auto diesel Mondeo avoids all the known issues. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3832604 Mon, 28 May 2012 08:18:12 +0000 unfitgeezer 3832604@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>forget the fords vauxhalls and french stuff get a Mercedes diesel c220 estate well withing your budget ! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3832489 Mon, 28 May 2012 00:27:44 +0000 Trekster 3832489@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote> I would not buy another (6 years and 80k in our ours...in garage again for £350 this week)</blockquote><br /> I would....5yrs and 60k and only needed servicing <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k/page/2#post-3832481 Mon, 28 May 2012 00:16:42 +0000 thisisnotaspoon 3832481@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I had the same criteria end ended up with a 1.6 petrol Ford C-max</p> <p>Just driven from Derby to Teesside and got 45mpg (usualy anywhere between 39 and 47 depending on how much of a hurry I'm in, somehow the missus got 33 from it when she borrowed it :S, even trying hard I can't do that! ), with the rear seats out it's big enough for anything, and the floorpans from the 2nd gen focus, so unlike van based (or plenty of purpose built) MPV's it goes round corners without inducing sea sickness or rolling into a hedge.</p> <p><blockquote>I'd go for a mk1 focus estate ......they handle really well and diesel would give you 45 mpg </blockquote> The petrol does that (with care)! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3832467 Sun, 27 May 2012 23:56:56 +0000 bruk 3832467@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I would go with a 5 series BMW too, drive pretty well and boot is ok too.</p> <p>Otherwise Mondeo would be a newer model and more toys most likely! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3832236 Sun, 27 May 2012 22:11:48 +0000 PJM1974 3832236@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Easy. Mk 2 Golf 16v. There are modern hot hatches which wouldn't know where you went.</p> <p>If I'm being sensible, it'd be a vote for the 159 though. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3832208 Sun, 27 May 2012 22:03:46 +0000 MrOvershoot 3832208@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>higgo - Member</p> <p>Have you thought about a Nissan X-Trail?</p> <p>I've had one for a couple of weeks and really like it. </blockquote><br /> Thought you would. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3832199 Sun, 27 May 2012 21:59:53 +0000 matt_outandabout 3832199@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Vw touran, if you can find one for that money. Go for the base diesel model unless you're bothered about tiny details</blockquote><br /> Aye, like a family car with two speakers, no wiring for towbar or more speakers, poor reliability and costly. Good car, but not great. I would not buy another (6 years and 80k in our ours...in garage again for £350 this week) </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3832057 Sun, 27 May 2012 21:11:56 +0000 Northwind 3832057@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>£5000 will get you a Mondeo 2.0 or 2.2 TD without too many years or miles on it- very big boot, especially with the seats flat, easy access, and there's a million of them out there.</p> <p>(a lot of estate cars have boot lips which make a big difference to usability... If you're carrying heavy or awkward stuff you'll want to be able to slide it straight in and out)</p> <p>You could get something huge- Galaxy etc- but if you're carrying building materials weight might be a limitation too. And it's less convenient to have to remove seats than to just fold them flat. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3831719 Sun, 27 May 2012 19:26:00 +0000 randomjeremy 3831719@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Vauxhall Signum diesel? Kinda cool in a quirky way.</blockquote></p> <p>Yes I would second this, one of the most underrated cars out there, and they are pennies on the trader. Built in Germany too. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3831698 Sun, 27 May 2012 19:18:54 +0000 neil the wheel 3831698@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I've loved my Peugeot 306 1.9 turbo diesel estate. Carries huge loads, fun to drive, does 50+ to the gallon, lovely ride and reliable. What a pity they stopped making them and now they're getting hard to find. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3831535 Sun, 27 May 2012 17:39:23 +0000 singlecrack 3831535@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I'd go for a mk1 focus estate ......they handle really well and diesel would give you 45 mpg </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-is-fun-to-drive-capacious-does-40-to-the-gallon-and-cost-less-that-5k#post-3831461 Sun, 27 May 2012 16:51:41 +0000 tonyg2003 3831461@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The VII gen accord 2.2 estate we had was a decent drive and big. Also a Mondeo ST diesel or an early Skoda Vrs diesel. They are probably some of the better handling big busses. </p>