steveh en-US Wed, 30 May 2012 01:09:46 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3315772 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:56:56 +0000 CountZero 3315772@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Why on this earth do you try to emulate a four year old by taking time to put extra letters in words?<br /> </blockquote><br /> Why shouldn't he? S'just elfin, innit. I find it rather endearing myself, but then, little things like that don't find me getting all bent out of shape over it.<br /> Others, however, seem to want to find the littlest things to get all over-excited about. Bit like a four year-old, come to think of it... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3315274 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:13:41 +0000 zokes 3315274@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Seems to have worked - you're now speaking properly at last <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>I must say that it was an exceptional insult though! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3315197 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:52:03 +0000 Elfinsafety 3315197@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>...Although it was kept up overnight whilst Ernie's post defending me was removed. </p> <p>So it's ok for people to post offensive comments about me, but not for people to speak up on my behalf?</p> <p> <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_neutral.gif" title=":|" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3315195 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:50:49 +0000 v8ninety 3315195@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Ha, I was wondering... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3315184 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:47:25 +0000 sweepy 3315184@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>And by 'that' I meant the post that appears to have vanished overnight </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3314656 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:00:34 +0000 BoardinBob 3314656@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote> Why on this earth do you try to emulate a four year old by taking time to put extra letters in words?</p> <p></blockquote></p> <p>because we all need to know how edgy and "street" he is </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3314487 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:10:29 +0000 sweepy 3314487@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>no need for that IMO </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3314349 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:53:22 +0000 zokes 3314349@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I woon't be changing that point of view any time soon.</blockquote></p> <p>Well, I can walk through ADL airport with just a cursory x-ray / metal detector sweep and get on an internal flight to somewhere big like SYD or MEL, or I can go through all the palaver of liquids in clear bags etc etc etc and get on a plane to somewhere much smaller like chch.</p> <p>Strikes me that if I wanted to hijack a 737, I'd pick the one going to SYD rather than the one going to chch. This really baffles me - either it's dangerous to let people take liquids on or it's not.</p> <p><blockquote>We're probbly all doomed.</blockquote></p> <p>You're Cressers and I claim my five pounds! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313872 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:34:14 +0000 ernie_lynch 3313872@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Aside from air hostesses in a hijack attempt, what else do you need to cut?</blockquote><blockquote>Christ, how long a list do you want? Ever tried cutting a zip tie with a pair of scissors, or your teeth? How about the stupidly thick moulded packaging that memory cards come in? Or overhanging brambles and briars when out riding? Pallet strapping, thick cardboard, trimming back torn fingernails...</blockquote></p> <p>Well you certainly keep yourself occupied whilst on a plane flight, that's for sure. </p> <p>And that's not even the whole list. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313837 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:25:05 +0000 CountZero 3313837@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Aside from air hostesses in a hijack attempt, what else do you need to cut?<br /> </blockquote><br /> Christ, how long a list do you want? Ever tried cutting a zip tie with a pair of scissors, or your teeth? How about the stupidly thick moulded packaging that memory cards come in? Or overhanging brambles and briars when out riding? Pallet strapping, thick cardboard, trimming back torn fingernails...<br /> I use a Rolson utility knife at work that has Stanley blades in, and it's handy for all sorts of stuff, even taking the blade out for scraping tape and labels off stuff, the blunt edge has been used as a screwdriver.<br /> What I can't understand is how anyone can manage <em>without</em> a pocket knife of some sort. A good knife and a Sharpie are two things I just can't manage without, I very rarely ever need a multitool, and I have a couple in my courier bag just in case. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313800 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:12:48 +0000 Elfinsafety 3313800@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>didnt those chaps hijack the 9/11 planes with box/stanley knives?</blockquote></p> <p>Pft. As I've said, you could just as easily improvise a whole array of deadly weapons with stuffs commonly found aboard most commercial passenger aircraft. The alleged hijackers in that case were apparently highly trained in the use of all sorts of nastiness, so I doubt very much that a knife ban would deter them all that much. Prisoners in jails seem to be able to fashion weapons out of all sorts too.</p> <p>Personally, I'd use a dinner tray and The Power of The Sith....</p> <p>[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw[/video] </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313752 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:59:46 +0000 IanW 3313752@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Used to have a small swiss army knife, one blade, corkscrew, bottle opener. Forgot it was in my rucksac and had it confiscated at Girona airport.<br /> Seemed reasonable to me, didnt those chaps hijack the 9/11 planes with box/stanley knives? </p> <p>If I had to take over a plane I would rather have a pen knife than a bottle of water.! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313671 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:34:29 +0000 hels 3313671@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I read an article written by a Mossad guy once about the holes in airport security, he said that all that security x-ray, shoes off etc stuff is just to make people feel better. A bit like the safety drills. I mean, really, do you think that the mask popping down and giving you oxygen is really going to help. I'm not betting my life on the "floatation cushion in case of an emergency water landing", either.</p> <p>I got all the way to my seat once on an international flight, and some Italian bird was sat there with a boarding pass in her hand with my name on it, due to some check-in error. At least 3 people must have looked at that and her passport, and not one noticed the different name. (British Airways, if we are judging) </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313637 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:26:45 +0000 Flaperon 3313637@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I fly with what I suspect is an identical Swiss Army knife and have never had problems at security. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313595 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:16:23 +0000 Elfinsafety 3313595@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Nope. We're probbly all doomed.</p> <p>Oh whell. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3313127 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:59:53 +0000 grantway 3313127@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>So looking at the above fine collection of blades<br /> we simply have no chance whilst flying </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3312900 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:38:17 +0000 db 3312900@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Drac - when I said pen knife I meant a knife looking like a pen.<br /> Illegal afaik same as key knives.</p> <p>Have a look at...<br /> <a href="http://www.bkcg.co.uk/guide/prohibited/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bkcg.co.uk/guide/prohibited/</a></p> <p>db </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/3#post-3312748 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:15:16 +0000 don simon 3312748@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Surely the only way to eat fruit is with a proper fruit knife, no?<br /> <img src="http://www.btinternet.com/~sandyloan/Silver_Fruit_knife.jpg"><br /> Love to see anyone try and take a plane down with one of these... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/2#post-3312714 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:51:00 +0000 Elfinsafety 3312714@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>No course you don't need them on the plane itself, but people have them in pockets and forget about them, and can end up losing them. </p> <p>How many hijackings have actually bin foiled since the knife/pointy things ban?</p> <p><blockquote>Y'know, up until now, my general view of airport security was that it existed to keep us all afraid...</blockquote></p> <p>I woon't be changing that point of view any time soon.</p> <p>The ban on things is just to help 'reassure' people that flying is still relatively safe. 'We're doing this for your own safety'. No, you're doing this to help people have more confidence in air travel so's you can maintain ticket sales and profits. It's little more than a PA exercise. It's actual effectiveness in preventing hijacks is probably negligible and certainly not worth the fuss.</p> <p>Granted, security measures are improved, but not cos of the knife/pointy things ban. They've improved cos technology has improved, as well as knowledge of how terrorism is carried out on 'planes an ting. </p> <p>Oh, and the longer you spend in an airport (cos of the increased security checks), the longer you have to browse the duty free shops.... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/knives-on-planes/page/2#post-3312705 Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:43:38 +0000 nealglover 3312705@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>....... Leatherman........Quite a handy thing to have, if yer going on holiday somewhere.......</blockquote></p> <p>Agree with that, and always take mine on holiday, and have one in the car, and one in my seat pack on the bike. </p> <p>But to risk losing it by sneaking it onto a plane (despite knowing if it's found, it's gone) seems a bit daft. </p> <p>How many people have had their enjoyment of a flight ruined by the lack of a pocket knife ? <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>.<br /> (I've got all my teeth too. 39 years old, never had a filling and can open beer bottles with my teeth ) <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p>