oxnop en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:44:13 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1610194 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:08:08 +0000 Crag 1610194@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Love him or loath him, Kaesae was the best thing to happen to this forum for some time. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1610052 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:30:04 +0000 wheeliejim 1610052@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I saw a kaesae youtube video about removing a pro 2 freehub using 2 pence pieces, which I did myself once. I thought it was quite a cunning trick! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1610034 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:26:01 +0000 mr_mills 1610034@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Who put those stars there? And there are only 3 letters in T1T. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1610031 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:25:19 +0000 mr_mills 1610031@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Kaesae was THE all-knowing bearing master but he got banned for also being a complete mentalist and a tit.</p> <p>He&#39;ll be reading this from bike thief heaven and wishing he could impart his bearing wisdom. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1610013 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:21:39 +0000 wheeliejim 1610013@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>To clarify what I mean by &quot;smooth&quot;, I mean turning the bearing in my fingers, feeling for graunchiness/lumpyness.. I&#39;m not referring to the effort required to turn the bearing.</p> <p>What happened to kaesae then, he was some kind of bearing master so I gather? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1609998 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:19:30 +0000 PeterPoddy 1609998@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Genaral rule of thumb -</p> <p>If it moves (Or might seize), grease it. If it doesn&#39;t, don&#39;t. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1609984 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:17:47 +0000 mr_mills 1609984@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Kaesae would know the answer.</p> <p>RIP Kaesae <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1609977 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:15:09 +0000 Dibbs 1609977@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The small sealed bearings used for bicyle applications are designed to run at thousands (if not tens of thousands) of RPM, at those sort of RPM&#39;s overpacking with grease would cause overheating, not really that likely in cycling applications <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif" title=":roll:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1609941 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:06:48 +0000 uplink 1609941@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>There&#39;s a good reason why the bearings aren&#39;t packed with grease.<br /> Unfortunately I can&#39;t remember it</blockquote></p> <p>It can cause enough pressure to pop bearing seals but I wouldn&#39;t have thought they run fast enough on a bike to do that<br /> I pack as much as I can into headsets </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1609936 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:05:37 +0000 wwaswas 1609936@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>depends what you mean by &#39;smooth&#39; - if you mean &#39;free turning&#39; then, yes, the less grease you put in the less friction/stiction there will be so it will turn more easily.</p> <p>That won&#39;t last though... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-1609908 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:00:16 +0000 wheeliejim 1609908@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve started expermimenting with this.</p> <p>I took a brand new (cheap) BB bearing and packed it full of grease. Before I touched it, it ran 100% smoothly. After I&#39;d popped the seals and packed with grease it was not so smooth (say 90%).</p> <p>So I&#39;m not sure if I have a net gain or not.. It isn&#39;t as smooth, but maybe the longevity will be improved?</p> <p>And I&#39;m not sure if it was the addition of the grease which has caused the drop in smoothness, or the action of removing and reseating the seals. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1550641 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 05:24:24 +0000 hugo rune 1550641@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Nothing at all. He just didn&#39;t have the support of the left or right wings of his party and paid the price for poor opinion poll ratings. Total horseshit to say any of his policies caused this - the unions just didn&#39;t like him.</p> <p>I don&#39;t know if I&#39;m qualified to comment on this since I actually live in Australia <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1550621 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:59:01 +0000 konabunny 1550621@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>It&#39;s not (all) the mining companies/mining unions&#39; fault, and it&#39;s not true that the mining tax is that onerous for the mining companies - but Labor failed to achieve consensus within the party and failed to push a consistent line to the electorate e.g. that by taxing profit instead of production, it actually lowers the risk of new investment. It was a rare case of an unpopular populist policy that burned through a lot of political capital.</p> <p>(And by the way if you want to talk about things that discourage investment in mining, you only have to look at the insane knee-jerk xenophobia that pops up whenever a foreign mining company that isn&#39;t owned by white people wants to invest in Australian mineral resources).</p> <p>The failure to pass the Emissions Trading Scheme was also a disaster that burned through a lot of political capital. Not only did Labor fail to get the scheme through, they also failed to rip apart and destroy the Liberal party who were completely divided over the scheme and lost their leader over it. It should have been a political bloodbath.</p> <p>And then they have failed to rip apart the opposition during the subsequent leadership contest, and then take Tony Abbott to pieces &#39;cos he&#39;s none too bright.</p> <p>The pink batts/dodgy insulation programme was a terrible idea that was done too quickly and was ripped off left, right and centre by chancers. The stupid Christmas Island immigration processing scheme is still in place, despite it costing 3 times more than onshore processing and achieving nothing extra.</p> <p>And not that the electorate cares but there has been zero progress in &quot;closing the gap&quot; between Aboriginal/Torres Strait Islanders and everyone else. There is a ton of money for ATSI housing that has been unspent while the living conditions of some villages are like shanty towns. The NT intervention has failed and nothing consistent has replaced it. Police and ATSIs are essentially warring parties in some towns. Plenty of towns are utterly segregated. ATSIs constitute a massively disproportionate number of people in prison, in care, falling out of education - all the usual indicators of something going terribly wrong.</p> <p>Meanwhile, Labor&#39;s performance in the States has been abysmal too: the utterly corrupt NSW government has been busy shooting itself in both feet simultaneously over and over again (e.g. Sydney metro - plans basically drawn up in the back of the cab on the way to the Treasury, like the Dog ASBO plans in The Thick of It, a ton of money spent on ludicrous prep work then cancelled; schools refurbishment - huge fraud and corruption in construction of portakabins on school grounds - construction = tradie unions = Labor donors; Kenneally saying she has full confidence in outed Police Minister, just after she sacked him).</p> <p>But for all of that, Rudd&#39;s government hasn&#39;t been all bad: ffs, the pain around the GFC has been minimal (thanks largely to the Chinese pumping millions of dollars into the economy buying &quot;free stuff&quot; i.e. minerals), there&#39;s been a real move away from the knuckle-dragging style of politics (which I think Gillard is very comfortable in), FAHSCIA funding for autistic parents has been a very powerful but undramatic policy that has paid off... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1550074 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:56:28 +0000 Earl 1550074@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I see.</p> <p>I remember his reaction to the Victoria fires a couple of years back and the fact that some of it was probably arson. He didn&#39;t mince his words. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1547651 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:58:13 +0000 shorts_in_winter 1547651@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>He is a micromanaging, arrogant tool. </p> <p>He was popular with the voting public, less so with those in his party. As soon as they lost the emission trading scheme the decline began, and the plan to increase tax on an already heavily taxed industry was obviously very poorly received in the regions where mining is critical (WA and QLD). </p> <p>The final nail in the coffin was definitely pushing through the new Mining Tax without consulting his party!</p> <p>Good riddance i say, several large mining projects had already been shelved, and many more would have followed. I just hope the inevitable compromise on the mining tax ensures that the industry receives minimal impact. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1547521 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:25:43 +0000 epicyclo 1547521@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Big money sank him. </p> <p>Tried to tax the multi-national mining companies and by a HUGE co-incidence ends up with knives in his back.</p> <p>Looks like the Oz government has been bought and sold.</p> <p>The fact that he can be unpleasant is neither here nor there. His replacement is a silent assassin type <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1547326 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:41:32 +0000 bristolbiker 1547326@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>He shelved his &quot;flagship&quot; environmental policy. The Aussie public like a battler, took it as a sign of weakness and his approval rating went through the floor. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1547319 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:40:46 +0000 fogliettaz 1547319@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>[Welsh bird] Welsh Sheila mate! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1547312 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:39:19 +0000 alexathome 1547312@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>He smelt of cabbage. Much better to have a ginger Welsh bird. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1547223 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:19:11 +0000 corroded 1547223@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Autocratic, micro-managing flip-flopper who alienated his staff and wasn&#39;t cut out for the job he&#39;d always wanted. Sort of rings a bell... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-was-wrong-with-kevin-rudd#post-1547206 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:14:13 +0000 Earl 1547206@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I though he was very popular? What went wrong? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-santa-cruz-blur-lt-medium-easton-ec-70-carbon-bars-rf-atlas-bars-juicy-7s#post-1082984 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:31:31 +0000 Naruto 1082984@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Forgot to mention! The Santa Cruz Blur LT frame has the upgraded TITANIUM UPPER LINK and also TITANIUM bottle bolts.</p> <p>Cheers, Matthew. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-santa-cruz-blur-lt-medium-easton-ec-70-carbon-bars-rf-atlas-bars-juicy-7s#post-1082882 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:02:07 +0000 Naruto 1082882@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>LOCATION OF ALL ITEMS: BOURNEMOUTH, DORSET.</p> <p>Hi, for sale are the following:</p> <p>A 2008 SANTA CRUZ BLUR LT 1 MEDIUM frame in anodised orange (which costs more than the powder coat version). This is in really good condition with a bit of cable rub in places. The frame includes a BRAND NEW 2009 FOX RP23 with a LARGE VOLUME CANISTER. Also included is an In line Thomson seat post in black (which is quite scratched, but is purely cosmetic). Also a brand new 2010 hope QR seat clamp in Anodised red. An XT front mech is also included which is in great cosmetic and full working order. The frame also comes with an XTR bottom bracket and a brand new race face deus headset.</p> <p>Total Cost: £1725.99</p> <p>Sell For: £699 posted. Cash on collection or Payment via Paypal as a gift.</p> <p>Call Matthew on 07961074748 or email <a href="mailto:mattc_2004@hotmail.com">mattc_2004@hotmail.com</a><br /> __________________________________________________________________________</p> <p>Next up is, A SET OF BRAND NEW 2010 Easton EC70 Monkeylite Riser XC Handlebar&#39;s. The bars are OS 31.8 and LOW RISE. They are completely untouched and uncut. These will be sent in the origional box.</p> <p>Cost: £109.99</p> <p>Sell for: £70 posted. Cash on collection or Payment via Paypal as a gift.</p> <p>Call Matthew on 07961074748 or email <a href="mailto:mattc_2004@hotmail.com">mattc_2004@hotmail.com</a><br /> __________________________________________________________________________</p> <p>Thirdly, there is a set of Race Face Atlas AM bars. They are used but in good condition, with a few scuff marks. The bars are LOW RISE and UNCUT.</p> <p>Cost: 59.99</p> <p>Sell for £30 posted.</p> <p>Cash on collection or Payment via Paypal as a gift.</p> <p>Call Matthew on 07961074748 or email <a href="mailto:mattc_2004@hotmail.com">mattc_2004@hotmail.com</a></p> <p>__________________________________________________________________________</p> <p>Lastly, a set of 2007 AVID JUICY 7 BRAKES. This includes everything including both front and rear brakes and 160mm rotors front and back. The pads have loads of life in them and the brakes have been recently bled.</p> <p>Cost: 224.99</p> <p>Sell for: £80 posted</p> <p>Cash on collection or Payment via Paypal as a gift.</p> <p>Call Matthew on 07961074748 or email <a href="mailto:mattc_2004@hotmail.com">mattc_2004@hotmail.com</a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-charge-spoon-blackspire-chain-device-shimano-saints#post-553040 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:02:38 +0000 mindmap3 553040@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Saddle sold - thanks guys. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-charge-spoon-blackspire-chain-device-shimano-saints#post-552883 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:00:07 +0000 imp999 552883@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Mindmap<br /> YHM ref the saddle. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-charge-spoon-blackspire-chain-device-shimano-saints#post-552880 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:59:55 +0000 Jonno 552880@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>will give you £17 for the saddle if its not gone.<br /> ygm </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-charge-spoon-blackspire-chain-device-shimano-saints#post-552845 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:45:41 +0000 saleem 552845@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>will you take £15 for the saddle????? If so email me and I&#39;ll sort payment later if that&#39;s ok, Thanks </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-charge-spoon-blackspire-chain-device-shimano-saints#post-552834 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:41:49 +0000 mindmap3 552834@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Just bought a new frame and the following its don&#39;t fit (or go in the case of the saddle...)</p> <p>Brown Charge Spoon Saddle - steel version, like new as its only done a few dry rides - £17 posted</p> <p>White Blackspire NSX C4 Chain Device, bottom bracket mounted, 4 boly, 32 - 36 teeth, with white bash ring - in very very good nick, £90 on CRC, £55 posted</p> <p>Shimano Saint Cranks (old style), with nearly nee Race Face Diabolus BB, 4 bolt - single ring only as the mounts for granny ring have been macjine off for clearance reasons. Few marks etc but in generally good nick - £60 posted.</p> <p>Pics available - e-mail sam underscore t underscpre court at hotmail dot com </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511355 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:40:35 +0000 timber 511355@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>if it&#39;s new, it don&#39;t need it<br /> if it&#39;s old, it&#39;s not worth it</p> <p> <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511236 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:48:07 +0000 smiffy 511236@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Greasing the outside of a headset bearing will bring two benefits; waterproofing and preventing creaks from dry mating surfaces. Think carefully about the type of grease you use outside, some are more tenacious then others, I use a specific grease for in-water applications, but I&#39;ve also found vasaline good for this application as well as to coat a BB body before fitting it into the sloshiest part of a bike. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511189 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:29:36 +0000 cynic-al 511189@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>No such thing as &quot;too much grease&quot; in a headset IMO. Freewheels are very different though. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511176 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:26:04 +0000 Pieface 511176@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I prise off the seal of the baring and pack in grease. My grease gun doesn&#39;t work so I spint he bearings to work the grease around and add more in the gaps. I then replace the seals and put a layer of grease on all bits of metal that touch other bits of metal - My thinking is that this will act as a barrier (albeit temporarily) to help the seals, but also stop metal bits sticking together. I figure excess grease will work its way out of the bearing or into the tubes around it. </p> <p>Howevber I try not to put too much in as it caused me a problem on a freewheel once. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511161 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:20:51 +0000 IanMunro 511161@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>There&#39;s a good reason why the bearings aren&#39;t packed with grease.<br /> Unfortunately I can&#39;t remember it <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511148 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:16:53 +0000 JonBurns 511148@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I think the Zinn book mentions something about half packing with grease which I assume is just a happy medium between no water and smooth running. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511073 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:56:17 +0000 Munqe-chick 511073@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>i thought the OP was asking whether you put extra grease around the cartridge bearing, not in it.</p> <p>I periodically re-grease the cartridge bearings in my coiler rear and apply the same theory as other posters to the headset, ie. if its full of grease theres no room for water. I also put extra grease around the headset cartridge bearings on the same theory (no room for water) and also to prevent the external faces corroding as tandemjeremy says. I wipe off any excess that gets pushed out which could attract/hold grit. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-511051 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:49:08 +0000 sharkbait 511051@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Do you use a grease gun for adding grease to bearings or just fingers? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-510897 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:00:35 +0000 TandemJeremy 510897@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>IMo a smear of grease to prevent the outside corroding and never removed the seals to pack more grease in the bearings.</p> <p>On this one you will get the whole range of possibilities as opinions as to the right thing to do </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-510788 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:26:02 +0000 glenh 510788@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>lol. I&#39;m sure you do! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-510745 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:12:24 +0000 ballsofcottonwool 510745@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Dunno, always had loose balls which I like to keep well greased. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/to-grease-or-not-to-grease-1#post-510275 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:23:42 +0000 foxyrider 510275@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>But over packing with grease means a sticky bearing - trying to turn over packed cartridge bearings can be quite hard compared with lightly greesed beainings in my experience? </p>