mrmo en-US Wed, 30 May 2012 01:03:44 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2649748 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:47:56 +0000 dekerferwils 2649748@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>hi crispedwheel i`ll try to get some for friday. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2649195 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:49:11 +0000 crispedwheel 2649195@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>dekerferwils - any photos? I might be interested in this. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2648615 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 06:54:54 +0000 Admiralable 2648615@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>As haggis said try retrobike brilliant site for the slightly older stuff. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2648547 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 00:03:41 +0000 dekerferwils 2648547@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>It`s an 18" frame. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2646456 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:59:21 +0000 jimster 2646456@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>What size frame is it? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2646023 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:05:40 +0000 dekerferwils 2646023@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Love to haggis1978 but i need to fund a yeti build, and this has sat needing money i cant spare, if it went, i would be unhappy,but to a good home... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2645925 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:44:01 +0000 lovewookie 2645925@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Last generation frame on ebay (just looked) with paint matched Judy's went for £70 posted.</p> <p>if it was my size I would have snapped it up myself!</p> <p>I would have originally thought that you'd be looking at between £100-£150, as I think the ebay one went for that as it was a 21". More reasonable size and you'd get more. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2645867 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:30:49 +0000 Hairychested 2645867@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>^^^ as (s)he says ^^^ </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2645854 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:28:04 +0000 haggis1978 2645854@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>if a respray is really needed then that can add £100 to someones outlay on the frame. the last few SLs' on ebay went for really cheap at around £250 whereas a year or so ago the generations were going for that easy. have a wee look over on retrobike and do a search in the for sale section. pictures speak a thousand words. Ive got a DeKerf UK Ltd Edition and i wouldnt even think about getting rid of it for anything like £250 as its the best steel hardtail i've ever owned and i've owned a few <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> If it was me i'd get it resprayed and a disc mount added and stick a short travel SID on it. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2645797 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:14:08 +0000 dekerferwils 2645797@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>A 96<br /> £499<br /> usual rub marks, respray needed<br /> 50mm but really a rigid<br /> XC whippet </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2645774 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:08:52 +0000 Rickos 2645774@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>How old?<br /> What price was it new?<br /> Condition?<br /> What travel forks is it for?<br /> Trail bike stylee or XC whippet?</p> <p>I only ask as I know nowt about them. So, in reality I'm prolly not going to be any help. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dekerf-generation-frame#post-2645724 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 10:58:25 +0000 dekerferwils 2645724@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Wanting to sell my Dekerf Generation frame, but what price to ask? haven`t seen any on ebay for years,any thoughts </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3/page/2#post-2630948 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:36:38 +0000 Shibboleth 2630948@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I'm not a journo, or an aerospace engineer. I'm just telling you how different they feel. To be honest, it was a bit disconcerting at first as I found it much harder to 'steer' whilst texting <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>My first thought was the rim profile, but like you say, a few mm is probably negligible. The only other difference is that the nipples are at the rim rather than the hub. But they're a MUCH lighter rim, so I can't see that making any difference.</p> <p>So that leaves either the rigidity of the build, or the spokes which are far more aero than on the R550s... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3/page/2#post-2630908 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:23:41 +0000 cynic-al 2630908@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Aye fair enough. I guess my point is that it's well established that rotating weight has a greater effect than static on how light a bike feels. My 24 spoke alpha's feel fine under my 12 stone so far...</p> <p>Shibbers I don't see how 5mm of rim height can affect stability that's all, particularly when the rim is lighter, you seemed to imply a direct link in a journo style. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3#post-2630797 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:45:30 +0000 ransos 2630797@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Fair enough ransos - could have got it to 1450gm with alphas though!</blockquote></p> <p>Oh, I'm sure you're right, and I know I could have gone lighter. But my winter bike has a ten-year old set of Open Pros in perfect condition, so I wanted to stick with them. Strength was important for me as I'm not too good at avoiding the potholes. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3#post-2630791 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:44:17 +0000 Shibboleth 2630791@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>WTF? Is this what magazines are spouting these days? </blockquote></p> <p>I've no idea if that's what magazines are spouting, but they feel noticeably more stable - most noticeable when I took the hands off the bars, the bike felt less wobbly. I was surprised as they're only 5mm or so deeper.<br /> Maybe it's the fact that they're a much stiffer wheel or much more aero spokes - I'm not sure - but there is definitely a marked difference. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3#post-2630773 Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:38:24 +0000 cynic-al 2630773@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Fair enough ransos - could have got it to 1450gm with alphas though!</p> <p><blockquote>being a bit deeper in profile, they feel very stable on the straights.</blockquote></p> <p>WTF? Is this what magazines are spouting these days? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3#post-2629773 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 19:54:07 +0000 Shibboleth 2629773@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Well, this afternoon I nipped over to Merlin and picked up a set of the Ultegras. Spoke to the mechanic who said they had loads of Fulcrums back for warranty repairs, but the Shimanos were far more reliable. He rated the RS301s but pointed out that they were no lighter than my existing wheels, so I wouldn't feel any improvement.</p> <p>First impressions, they're very subtly styled - rim graphics are quite understated but the hubs are nicely polished/anodised and look very classy.</p> <p>They come with valves/seals ready to run tubeless and don't require a rim strip, though I've set them up with Conti Ultra Gatorskins and tubes.</p> <p>Just taken them for a 10 mile ride with a very tough climb up the back of Jeffrey Hill (just north of Preston) and a 2 mile rolling descent. They feel far more sprightly than the R550s that they replaced, they accelerate noticeably quicker and, being a bit deeper in profile, they feel very stable on the straights.</p> <p>They felt rock solid on the climb too, with no discernible flex or creaking (I'm 13.5 stone). And they make a very satisfying hum at speed.</p> <p>Overall, bloody happy with them, so thanks for the advice! Are they worth the money? Certainly. I don't think there's anything else comes close without spending a fair bit more, and I'm happy to spend the money knowing I've got a reliable wheelset that's not going to fail 50 miles from home. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3#post-2628312 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:12:45 +0000 ransos 2628312@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I think the reason handbuilt wheels are so rated as having no problems is that they generally have heavy-ish rims (in comparison to the lightweight stuff) and higher spoke count.</blockquote></p> <p>My setup (see above) is 1600g with 32 spokes per wheel. Not uber-light I agree, but lighter than most factory stuff at the same price point. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/road-bike-wheels-3#post-2628242 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:52:51 +0000 The Flying Ox 2628242@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Sorry dude. Thought you only had Victory 30s in...</p> <p>I'll blame it on my utter shatteredness from yesterday's two rides. </p>