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		<title>Singletrack Forum &#187; User Favorites: jim</title>
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			<title>van cough cough on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-3298441</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>van cough cough</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;SRAM X9.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;All agreed say I.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Sod Shimano chains at any price, though I do run an XT front mech and SLX chainset.
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			<title>takisawa2 on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-3298430</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>takisawa2</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I find SLX &#34;clunky&#34;. Not in a bad way, it shifts as quickly &#38;amp; acurately as XT, but there is a &#34;clunk&#34; where XT  has a &#34;click&#34;. &#60;img src=&#34;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif&#34; title=&#34;:-)&#34; class=&#34;bb_smilies&#34; alt=&#34;&#34;/&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>swindon jay on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-3298137</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>swindon jay</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;....
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			<title>Shorty121 on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-3297991</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Shorty121</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Aye cheers for weighing all the parts
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			<title>mboy on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2398217</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mboy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Well bugger me... Ordered Friday morning, delivered Monday afternoon... From Germany!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Time to get it fitted now then...
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			<title>mboy on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2394361</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mboy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Well, decided on XT in the end, based mainly on the fact that for 10 euros extra I could spec 170mm cranks instead of 175's. Saves me the hassle, as couldn't spec 170s on the SLX group, so would have had to buy another chainset and then sell the 175s...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So, very soon my Maverick is gonna have a full 10spd XT group on it (it already has XT brakes), I'll report back when I've ridden it perhaps...
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			<title>mboy on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2389524</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mboy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;EG&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That's brilliant! I wish there was a thank you button to hit several times... Exactly what I wanted to know...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Quite interesting to see that in every respect too, 10spd XT seems to have gained some weight over 9, when I thought only the cassette would be any heavier if at all!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But 135g difference for the full groupset, when almost half of it is in the cranks, and another quarter is in the cassette, is not a lot to be fair...
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			<title>chakaping on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2387752</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>chakaping</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Brilliant post EG.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Respect is due.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62; &#60;img src=&#34;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif&#34; title=&#34;:)&#34; class=&#34;bb_smilies&#34; alt=&#34;&#34;/&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>E_G on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2387448</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>E_G</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;To answer your more recent question mboy, there is very little difference in weight between SLX and XT for 10-speed.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am in the fortunate position of having both an SLX-10 (M660) and XT-10 (M771) waiting to go onto a frame and for swap-out from SRAM X7/X9 on a new Scott.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;These are the weights according to my digital kitchen scales (in grams, 5g increments in measurement), in the format item: XT / SLX&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;RH crank inc chainrings, triple:  560 / 605&#60;br /&#62;
LH crank:  230 / 235&#60;br /&#62;
BB:  100 / 100&#60;br /&#62;
Cassette (11/36):  350 / 380&#60;br /&#62;
Chain:  275 / 280&#60;br /&#62;
Levers &#38;amp; cables (no outers):  300 / 310&#60;br /&#62;
Front mech (top swing):  155 / 155&#60;br /&#62;
Rear mech (long cage):  245 / 275&#60;br /&#62;
Overall difference = 135g (6%).  Not much really if XT costs 50% more than SLX.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't have either SLX or XT brakes to compare weight.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Scott should be with me either next week or early April.  The frame, a Karate Monkey, is out of stock until mid April.  Neither is going on a bike until then so I can't give a comparison on which feels better, and in any case when built up the bikes have different purposes and will handle differently anyway so a direct comparison will be difficult.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;GaryLake's suggestion is good, unless the price difference of selling off the SLX shifters and buying XT means that it would be close to the price of getting XT in the first place.  Service from Germany (Action Sports) has been great.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hope you find this useful&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;EG
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			<title>Zoolander on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2386911</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Zoolander</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Thing is mboy,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you go for the slx, will you always wonder how much better the xt may have been or feel that xt will have looked better. If so go and shell out for the xt - if you are unlikely to be bothered go for the slx and pocket the difference- as there's not going to really be much in it performance wise.&#60;br /&#62;
That's the way I summed it up when I had the decision to make - xt wasn't going to make me faster or better at riding but it would have always bugged me if I'd have gone slx.
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			<title>Dickyboy on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2386831</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Dickyboy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Always amazes me how XT holds it's resale value too  &#60;img src=&#34;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif&#34; title=&#34;:wink:&#34; class=&#34;bb_smilies&#34; alt=&#34;&#34;/&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>tang on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2386415</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>tang</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;running 9spd rings here no probs, also a wippermann connex chain as it has a connex piece. shimano dont do one and the 10spd sram is a powerlock.&#60;br /&#62;
xt looks lusher. get thee to actionsports.
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			<title>chakaping on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2386139</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>chakaping</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The chainrings are physically closer together on the 10sp cranks BTW.
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			<title>mboy on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2386115</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mboy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I don't believe you do reggiegasket, I was told that a 10spd chain runs ok on 9spd rings.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But I'd want the closer ratios on the front too if I was running a wider range cassette, just makes sense to me.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;GaryLake, was thinking that might be the way to go...
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			<title>reggiegasket on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2385267</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>reggiegasket</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;do you have to run 10spd rings on a 10spd setup?
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			<title>reggiegasket on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2385262</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>reggiegasket</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;+1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not tried the 10spd kit yet - but considering it - but if you upgrade any drivetrain part then the shifters make the biggest difference IMO.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I now run 970 shifters on my 9spd bike and they are brilliant. So light and positive.
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			<title>GaryLake on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2385193</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>GaryLake</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Get SLX and sell/upgrade the shifters to XT.
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			<title>chakaping on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2385180</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>chakaping</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I would agree with Tony.
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			<title>tony24 on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2385146</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>tony24</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I would say everything slx is good except the shifters which feel cheap in comparison to xt
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			<title>mboy on "10spd SLX Vs XT"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/10spd-slx-vs-xt#post-2385064</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 10:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mboy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;peakprowler, I noticed, but I'd need cranks as well, and though your prices are indeed very good compared to UK RRP, can get a full XT groupset including the cranks for around that price from Germany it would seem...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Zoolander, you see I had a quick ride on a bike with full 10spd XT a couple of months ago and was amazed by it too, but I'm thinking that was mainly the 10spd factor too. The SLX 9spd stuff I've ridden (and owned) feels to me every bit as good as XT 9spd, just a tiny bit heavier, and not finished quite as well.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;damo2576, you are probably absolutely right to a point. Looking at things like Shimano XTR and SRAM XX rear mechs, I can see why they cost more, but a Deore Vs SLX Vs XT... There's probably not very much in it in terms of cost to make, maybe the price difference to us is purely economies of scale (probably make 5 Deore mechs for every XT they sell for instance). I've recently bought a road bike, and was scared that buying a bike with &#34;only Tiagra&#34; would mean it felt rubbish compared to Ultegra or Dura Ace... Doubt I'd notice the difference in use to be honest! I do prefer a nice metal (rather than plastic) thumb button on my MTB shifters though, it does make it feel more satisfying to use...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Right, nerd time question now... Anybody know the weight difference between an XT and SLX setup? We're talking cranks, shifters, both mechs, cassette and chain here... What do you reckon? 100 grammes? 200? More? Less?
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