grumm en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:19:03 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2332391 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:20:24 +0000 Jamie 2332391@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Surely not. SSD is slower for outright speed - simply faster for seeks, no? So it's better for lots of small files and worse for one big one.<br /> </blockquote></p> <p>Eh? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2332332 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:07:16 +0000 molgrips 2332332@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>thunderbolt and an external SSD would solve that problem </p> <p></blockquote></p> <p>Surely not. SSD is slower for outright speed - simply faster for seeks, no? So it's better for lots of small files and worse for one big one. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2332290 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:56:45 +0000 brassneck 2332290@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote> just installed OSX onto a couple of Dell Mini 10's</blockquote></p> <p>Yes, I was aware that model would do a drop in install, but I've not come across something more Pro-a-like - i5 or 7, discrete powerful graphics card etc. That'd interest me. Could always put 7 back on it if it was a pain in the future I suppose... but I'm trying to avoid migrating back to Windows more because of the hassle than any religious conviction <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2332190 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:33:11 +0000 MrSmith 2332190@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>saving out 2gb+ photoshop files does give you a bit of 'forum time' <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> <br /> thunderbolt and an external SSD would solve that problem </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2332175 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:29:06 +0000 avdave2 2332175@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>having in/out disk access that fast is going to increase productivity in a big way</blockquote></p> <p>Or allow exactly the same amount of work to be done but more time on STW. <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2332154 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:24:59 +0000 JCornford 2332154@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The 13" pro does look good for not much more than the macbook. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2332108 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:14:50 +0000 MrSmith 2332108@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>so if you must have a mac get the lowest spec 13 or maybe the macbook. the pro's unibody construction is worth the extra imho plus the gap between macbook and pro is now greater because of the new generation processors. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2331964 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:43:23 +0000 JCornford 2331964@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>That's what i am trying to get at, it worked well enough for photoshop, indesign etc </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2331922 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:33:04 +0000 MrSmith 2331922@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Any idea where my current one fits in the range,</blockquote></p> <p>at the very bottom, the lowest spec from the last model in the refurb store would still be an improvement*</p> <p>*depending on what you want to use it for.</p> <p>if you were happy with the HP why not just get it's equivalent replacement? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2331849 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:17:26 +0000 Kato 2331849@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>+1 Vaio </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2331842 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:16:05 +0000 JCornford 2331842@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Any idea where my current one fits in the range, I was thinking I needed a high spec mac book pro, but based on the spec of my now dead laptop <a href="http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/laptops/hp-pavilion-dv6750ea-entertainment/details/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/laptops/hp-pavilion-dv6750ea-entertainment/details/</a> which was capable of what I needed, could I get away with a lower end macbook pro, or even a mac mini or mac book? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2331794 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:00:35 +0000 MrSmith 2331794@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>the 15 and 17 have an on chip intel card and an extra ATI card for HD grot watching.</p> <p>you can't really compare the current range as they have sataIII, faster memory and thunderbolt, the bottom spec model is as fast as the old spec model, you can't use clock speed of the processors as a comparison. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2331583 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 11:14:58 +0000 xiphon 2331583@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>It has 256MB dedicated memory, with access to the laptop RAM if needs be. Also known as 'shared memory' graphics. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2331471 Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:51:04 +0000 JCornford 2331471@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Does anyone understand graphics cards? I'm trying to see how my laptop compares to the current range of Macs.</p> <p>Graphics Processor / Vendor NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS<br /> Video Memory 256 MB<br /> Total Available Graphics Memory 1023 MB</p> <p>The macs only seems to state the 256mb and not the total graphics memory, can anyone shed some light? It's a different language to me! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2329487 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:35:09 +0000 peterfile 2329487@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I've got a 13" MBP that I bought in September 2010 from John Lewis (so has 2 year warranty) you could have if you wanted to buy one cheaper than the RRP.</p> <p>It's immaculate. Send me an email if you are interested <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>I want a 17" MBP now <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_twisted.gif" title=":twisted:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2329173 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:00:57 +0000 sniff 2329173@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>You could also get one at an airport "tax free" if you go for a MBP. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2329171 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:00:24 +0000 Kuco 2329171@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I find Apple stuff looks a bit boring and clinical now days. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2329159 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:56:15 +0000 ericemel 2329159@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I have recently got rid of my mbp in favour of a dell xps 15, why?</p> <p>Programs I run are significantly quicker in windows than OSX (lightroom and DXO)<br /> The dell screen is better (1080p full adobe gamut)<br /> It was £700 on dell outlet (quad 1.86, 4gig, 500gig, 1080p RGBLED, 9 cell battery) - which is well over half the price of an equivalent mpb, even with nus discount! </p> <p>Saying that am a huge fan of apple hardware - we have 2 apples and one dell + an acer server at home, yes it is expensive, but extremely high quality, and resale value is way better than anything else (thank you mac fanboys!) </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328844 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:25:07 +0000 sharkbait 2328844@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>is there genuinely an install method to commodity hardware that works with all apps and updates without hassle</blockquote></p> <p>Don't think so - I believe this is because of the large variation of components available in PCs.<br /> That said I have just installed OSX onto a couple of Dell Mini 10's and it was pretty easy once I had an image of the OSX installer DVD (not pirated, copied off a real retail DVD) - no additional drivers required, just a normal install. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328742 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:01:07 +0000 freerideste 2328742@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Just bought myself a 2011 15" MBP. Upgraded to 8Gb ram 256Gb ssd and Hi-res antiglare screen.</p> <p>I have experienced hackintosh and although a good introduction to the OS it just doesnt 'feel' the same (whatever feel means <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> )</p> <p>Im about to venture into the world of freelance web design and the mac book pro seems to motivate and inspire me where no other machine does. (maybe im turning into an apple fan boy? <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> )</p> <p>Yes I agree they are pricey. I got education discount as the wife is at uni. still cost me £2k though. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328600 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:31:05 +0000 brassneck 2328600@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Get a hackintosh compatible laptop, and continue to use OSX...</blockquote></p> <p>Not trolling but is there genuinely an install method to commodity hardware that works with all apps and updates without hassle? A fair chunk of the benefit with my Pro is that it is hassle free. Every install I've seen so far comes with caveats (ignoring it breaking the EULA for one moment) that make it a bit of a compromise too far.</p> <p>Though I also agree a new one is going to be out of the question cost wise for me also.. looking at a second hand iMac myself, top end of the old Core2s probably. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328486 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:06:55 +0000 MrSmith 2328486@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Thunderbolt? Hmmmm..</blockquote></p> <p>so many what iff's.</p> <p>it's like saying "<br /> i might not ride my bike today because a meteorite could hit me on the head."</p> <p>i'll probably take the risk (thunderbolt) to get a superfast interface seeing as i don't go to conferences to plug my laptop into somebody's projector where they might possibly steal the contents of my hard drive.</p> <p>i might not ride my bike today because a meteorite could hit me on the head. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328395 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:47:15 +0000 nonk 2328395@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>not sure if you saw my post about my bro's MBP, to cut the story short he poured an entire cup of coffee into it. he took it back to the store they said it was borked and just gave him another.<br /> that helps me justify the cost.<br /> a bit anyway. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328353 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:35:27 +0000 willard 2328353@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Thunderbolt? Hmmmm... <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/24/thunderbolt_mac_threat/">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/24/thunderbolt_mac_threat/</a></p> <p>Not sure it's necessary really, but it does give you a nice way to pwn someone's machine.</p> <p>Just bite the bullet and buy a Mac. You know you want to. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328244 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:06:23 +0000 MrSmith 2328244@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>MBP's are just standard Intel laptops, nowt special about them physically.</blockquote></p> <p>except for the unibody aluminium construction, lightpeak/thunderbolt connection, powered firewire 800. and most importantly the ability to run osx (hackintosh laptops all seem to be underpowered or have things that don't work) and the native software that people wish to use like final cut etc.</p> <p>the thunderbolt interface is going to be a big thing for photo/video/music users, having in/out disk access that fast is going to increase productivity in a big way. it's not available on pc's for another year. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328214 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:56:10 +0000 cp 2328214@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Pretty much any powerful laptop will be up to the job...</p> <p>keep an eye the the apple outlet for refurb stuff - some reasonable discounts in there. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328209 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:54:30 +0000 xiphon 2328209@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>MBP's are just standard Intel laptops, nowt special about them physically.</p> <p>Get a hackintosh compatible laptop, and continue to use OSX... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328183 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:47:19 +0000 glenh 2328183@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Education discount or re-furbished MBP <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328179 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:45:49 +0000 grumm 2328179@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Get someone with student discount to buy you a MacBook pro <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>People who work at unis can get it too. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328176 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:44:51 +0000 Jamie 2328176@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Why not get a regular Macbook or second hand MBP?</p> <p>I know what you mean though, I have a '08 15" MBP and would like to update now the news ones are out....£1500+ start off price is just too spicy a meatball for me to swallow. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328170 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:44:08 +0000 mrmichaelwright 2328170@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>vaio</p> <p>macbook pro spec, half the price</p> <p>simples </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/alternative-to-a-mac-book-pro#post-2328165 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:42:33 +0000 JCornford 2328165@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>My laptop has died, I'd love to get a mac as I use them at work, but you do pay a premium for fruit based products, so what pc equivalent would anyone out there that does regular photoshop, indesign and basic video editing recommend? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474533 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:52:47 +0000 DezB 1474533@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>There&#39;s a video of it on youtube </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474518 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:49:01 +0000 kiwijohn 1474518@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>yes. i tried it. it will take off. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474339 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:01:34 +0000 BigDummy 1474339@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>The Big Bike Bash</blockquote></p> <p>That was pathetic. The trollic equivalent of shooting your load at the sight of our thigh. Get down there and make yourself useful, and if you even come up for air, nevermind mention Hit The North, before we&#39;ve had 40 posts there&#39;ll be trouble. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474335 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:00:24 +0000 wwaswas 1474335@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>d) It would make a mess of your vinyl. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474330 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:59:19 +0000 Ewan 1474330@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The rotation of the turntable has nothing to do with it. It&#39;s the speed of the air over the aerofoils (the rotors in this case) that generates lift, the rotars could be stationary and it&#39;d take off if the whole helicopter was rotated.</p> <p>If the motion of the turntable moved the mass of air above it then it would have an effect, but it probably wouldn&#39;t, so it&#39;s irrelvant.</p> <p>The pilot would be sick tho... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474312 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:51:43 +0000 BigBikeBash 1474312@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Now can someone provide a link between this thread and </p> <p>a) Trolling<br /> b) The <a href="http://www.BigBikeBash.co.uk">Big Bike Bash</a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474301 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:47:33 +0000 BigButSlimmerBloke 1474301@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>What about if the helicopter was on landing pad made of mesh below which was a giant fan rotating at the same speed as the heliopter rotors but in reverse? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/helicopter-on-a-turntables#post-1474300 Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:46:48 +0000 rootes1 1474300@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>a. no<br /> b. yes<br /> c. the pilot would be sick </p>