glynp en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:20:06 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067999 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:32:44 +0000 Bikepimp 2067999@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Crank bros wheels are as soft as putty <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> You'd be better getting a pair of mavic crossmax slr's as they run tubeless <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> 2011 shimano xtr trail groupset and easton finishing kit! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067498 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:50:27 +0000 glynP 2067498@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Crank bros wheels that could be a plan, are they tubless </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067458 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:33:49 +0000 akira 2067458@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Point one racing pedals and stem, Crank Bros Iodine wheels, XTR 2x10 set up and XX brakes.<br /> Good start. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067449 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:28:03 +0000 bloodynora 2067449@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Running Rotor cranks with a SAAB BB on my hardtail at the mo... ok so far and very smoooth after a few months riding </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067427 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:19:29 +0000 glynP 2067427@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Industry nine, very nice, what about rotor cranks, anyone tried them? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067421 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:17:35 +0000 glynP 2067421@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I find that the latest xtr ( not 20011 ) is the best shifter I've ever used, it's been a while since I used SRAM so can't really comment on them </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067419 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:17:22 +0000 schmiken 2067419@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Industry Nine wheels, X.0 shifter and mech, Rotor 3D cranks, and Crank Brothers bar, stem and post. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067390 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:06:15 +0000 Orange Lad 2067390@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I went from Shimano to XO and X9 much prefer it feels more definite and mechanical than shimano there is a click from the shifter a definite clunk from the rear mech and the chain has been shifted. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067285 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:31:45 +0000 glynP 2067285@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The Bos forks are actually £750 and we have three pairs in the shop, 2x 160mm and 1x 140mm, Dirt mag say they are the best 2011 product so far and are way above the competition ie RS and Fox. If they are better than my 36's then they must be amazing.<br /> I am more of a shimano man but would never rule anything else out. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067219 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:14:05 +0000 Shorty121 2067219@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Some were sold cheap which made them better value than fox </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067212 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:10:57 +0000 Bikepimp 2067212@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Bos deville forks eh? Jesus they cost £1100.00. Are they twice as good as fox or rockshox in performance <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif" title=":roll:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067149 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:52:33 +0000 Orange Lad 2067149@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Raceface Next SL, cranks, seatpost and bars, Syntace F99 Stem, X0 mech, shifter and brakes would be my starting point </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/help-me-build-my-new-bike#post-2067063 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:28:58 +0000 glynP 2067063@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I've got a new blur ltc with Bos deville forks the frame and forks are White and I fancy running 1 x 10 or 1 x 9, I could get the new Easton haven wheels, give me some ideas for some nice bling for my dream machine </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-638012 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:25:40 +0000 alpin 638012@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>GTs look shit. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-638006 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:17:47 +0000 Swiftacular 638006@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://www.freewebs.com/abcbikes/moto.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-637963 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:55:12 +0000 juiced 637963@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I have one of these.http://www.freewebs.com/abcbikes/moto.jpg<br /> It&#39;s a riot to ride on freeridey places, where I endure the ups for the downs. Low bb slackish ha and short backend. I have added a dual chainring for climbing as it as originally single only. It is built for strength for out and out xc and a faster paced rides it is not ideal. But for blasting and having a whole heap of fun ( with jumps etc thrown in) it is superb! There;&#39;s no reason why I couldn&#39;t remove the dh bars and cranks etc and run it a whole lot lighter.Only minus is the back is harsh as it is very stiff alloy but i just let the front end do the work </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-620345 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:43:00 +0000 delusional 620345@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>The bridge between the seatstays will hit the seat tube on your Pitch if you fit a shorter eye-to-eye shock. It comes pretty damn close with the stock shock.</blockquote><br /> Not just close... I&#39;ve dented the bridge on my Pitch on a couple of rather big hits with the standard shock. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-620310 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:33:54 +0000 Cheeky Monkey 620310@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I have a Dialled Bikes Holeshot (Mike&#39;s 4X frame) for pump track and jumps (or trying to .... ). It&#39;s great (old 4&quot; vanillas on the front). Have ridden it around bits of Stainburn as well.</p> <p>Do I need a separate bike for this - of course not. Is it great - yes <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-620255 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:18:35 +0000 richc 620255@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>A friend had an old Kona Dawg (the 100mm travel one) with some Lyriks on it. I was convinced it would tear the headtube off but it seems to hold up well and he wasn&#39;t scared of doing DH courses on it. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-620236 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:13:53 +0000 Swiftacular 620236@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>While we&#39;re at it, gives me an excuse to post a picture of my &quot;4X&quot; bike. (Dont race it, but it was built as one) Loads of fun, and very usable, even managed out local XC loop on it last night. Wouldnt want to do a few hours on it, but great for short blasts, up to a couple of hours.<br /> Have always hankered after a blur 4X though...<br /> <img src="http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1121/0ec9d43a0b5f424a83a640aca897f476.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-620115 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:32:56 +0000 glenh 620115@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://randompic.compare-loan-rates.com/Files/6052_770971476799_197818971_46806914_4829863_n.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-620097 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:27:11 +0000 GW 620097@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Max - that&#39;s an STP isn&#39;t it?<br /> I just happen to ride an STP for 90% of my riding and that includes traditional XC and trail centre use. it&#39;s perfect for trail centres (for me) and a lot more fun on a long XC loop than a boring old XC bike (did a 4hr XC ride with an hour or so of DH on it yesterday, if I&#39;d have taken an XC bike I couldn&#39;t have ridden the DH sections to their full) and me riding a 4X (even though it isn&#39;t) bike has **** all to do with marketing trends, I&#39;ve ridden little 100mm travel hardtails as my main bike for almost 15yrs now.<br /> Oh.. and an STP is a good 4X bike but that&#39;s not what it was designed for.. the Atherton&#39;s rode them for 4X when they were on Giant but I believe the input for the frame design came from jeff lenosky (*correct me if I&#39;m wrong)</p> <p>S = Street<br /> T + Trail<br /> P + Park </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-620094 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:26:43 +0000 thisisnotaspoon 620094@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>went down the BMX track at the weekend</p> <p>Rigid and 74.5 HA&#39;s are the way foreward! May take it to Cannock and/or Swinley at some point just to annoy the locals <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>Only downside is it only has one brake, and with the small wheels means it&#39;s about as effective as turning arround and farting over the bars.</p> <p>Still tempted though <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-619998 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:52:56 +0000 Cheeky Monkey 619998@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve wanted / thought about something like this for a while. Seemed a natural choice from LT HTs. Has nothing to do with wanting or even being interested in riding 4X 8-P</p> <p>Always liked the idea of a Transition Preston (when it first came out with 4 or 5&quot; rockers at the back and up to (IIRC) 6&quot; front. Then they changed it (and the original UK guy was dogy as ...). Also really liked the idea of the original Hemlock with a similar 4&quot;/6&quot; option (not that 6&quot; is a must, but the idea of a little bit of rear and bigger up front &quot;makes sense&quot; to me). But they changed it (and the Mk1s had a few issues, apparently).</p> <p>Not about riding a &quot;4X&quot; bike, just about someone who likes LT HTs wanting a bit more skill compensation without having to run loads of travel at the rear. My interest is more about a good quality rear travel, all day / woods type of bike (basically I can use it all the time, just like LT HTs). Pipedream probably.</p> <p>Until something really interesting comes along I&#39;ll stick to my Ti fetish <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";-)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> <p>IIRC the travel increase on the Mk2 Hemlock was mostly a change of necessity &quot;forced&quot; on Si, rather than something he planned. I could be wrong ;-/ </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-619936 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:32:34 +0000 Munqe-chick 619936@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Max H did you post without reading the thread? i thought the whole point of this thread was that bikes marketed as &quot;full suspension 4X&quot; make good UK trail bikes, not that they might not actually be brilliant 4X bikes? Several people have even suggested they are re-named as they are more versatile than the name &quot;4X&quot; suggests. You sound like someone &quot;into&quot; 4X which might have coloured your response, but I think youve missed the point of the previous ~60 posts. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-619896 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 08:19:08 +0000 Rickos 619896@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Max headset - what a pile of horse crap. People can ride what they like where they like if it suits what they&#39;re doing. You&#39;re just way too into this all marketing is evil rubbish, but all marketers do usually is follow the trends, not set them. A couple of the blokes at Dirt Mag use 4X bikes as their trail bikes - are you gonna tell them they&#39;re not allowed to do that cos they should be for &quot;pumping and styling around a formed course&quot;? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617962 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:19:43 +0000 pinches 617962@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>shameless picture of mine</p> <p><img src="http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b74/gofasterpinch/IMG_4296.jpg"></p> <p>i do like that giant hardtail though. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617799 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:03:15 +0000 j-claw 617799@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Seen the new Cove Hooker?</p> <p><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk98/covebikeshop/image3.jpg"></p> <p> <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617775 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:38:55 +0000 mamadirt 617775@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>. . . unless you&#39;re 5&#39;2&quot; and want a full-sus bike that&#39;ll feel confidence inspiring on the DH&#39;s and still be able to ride back to the top without (quote from a previous review of the SC Bullit) &#39;seeing the white light and Jesus&#39; <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> . Trust me, I have the bank balance to prove it <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_neutral.gif" title=":|" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617774 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:34:19 +0000 mAx_hEadSet 617774@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>4x bikes are built for pumping and styling around a formed course that&#39;s what they do well, no need for long forks or rear suspension... </p> <p>this is the bike Joost Wichman just picked up to ride at the 4x Worlds in Australia.<br /> <img src="http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs160.snc1/5970_1230725690582_1302300322_30670214_4000676_n.jpg"></p> <p>hardly the kind of bike geometry that would appeal to most trail centre riders seeking a burly substitute to an xc bike be it full sus or hard tail, no more so than to expect a foreplay would make you want to leave a stiffee in the garage next time you go to a trail centre.</p> <p>The only persons likely to benefit from hyping the trail prowess&#39;s of full sus 4x bike in my view most likely to be those who make them and probably have a warehouse full of unsold bike they need to shift either because their geometry is not suitable for your average serious 4x rider or no matter how rocky Saxena builds worlds courses the likes of Wichman will turn up on a hard tail running 100mm and Larson TT&#39;s </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617721 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:17:13 +0000 hicksville 617721@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>the original giant trance 4.2 rear and with 140 mm pikes pretty impressive </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617667 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:39:25 +0000 chakaping 617667@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>ST bike reviews used to be a lot more thorough didn&#39;t they? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617611 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:03:08 +0000 lev 617611@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I built a Meta 4x for razzing and trail centres. So far so good. it&#39;s got a air pikes that I run at 110mm, chain device with a 34 ring and an uppy downy seat post, to add to the &#39;flow&#39;. It weighs in at just over 32lb and when those new fox 831&#39;s come out it will lose another pound in weight. I think this style of bike is a 2 hour (ride) special, that will climb ok and descend ace, making for a fun ride. That&#39;s what it&#39;s all about, innit? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-617337 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:01:23 +0000 Dusty Lilac 617337@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>My Prophet in short travel mode (120mm rear, 130mm front), now back to the full 140mm both ends and just as good:<br /> <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3651/3563582169_12d8e6ac88_b.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-616965 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:46:45 +0000 higgo 616965@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Stanage.</p> <p>Here&#39;s another pic from the same day....</p> <p><img src="http://chestermtb.co.uk/forum/uploads/1206279240/gallery_22_216_73726.jpg"></p> <p>There are two ways down Stanage, both fun in their own way, the &#39;causeway&#39; and the &#39;plantation&#39;. On the day I was leading (probably from the back as normal) a ride that was going to finish down the causeway. Personally I prefer the plantation route so I got there early and rode/pushed up a couple of times so I could enjoy the ride down. The pics are from that morning. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-616947 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:29:18 +0000 glynP 616947@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Higgo, where is that pic from, that descent looks amazing </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-616828 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:06:36 +0000 Hob Nob 616828@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve had my Blur 4X for about 3 years now. Although on occasion, it does actually get used to race a bit of 4X!</p> <p>However, I didn&#39;t buy it for that purpose. My riding is mainly gravity orientated, I endure the ups to enjoy the alongs and the downs. I would rather have a bike that is capable of climbing at an &#39;ok&#39; level and rips on the other bits, rather than the other way round.</p> <p>Its slack &amp; low, which basically translates into a riot to ride on the fun stuff. Midly ironic that its not actually that great for 4X! Ha.</p> <p>Best bike i&#39;ve ever owned. If I could only have one bike, this would be it, not even questionable.</p> <p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/chris.archer/Penny1.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-616762 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:53:34 +0000 GW 616762@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>flowmtbguy - like this, you mean?</p> <p><img src="http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2535/019vn2.jpg"></p> <p>I built this up a while ago from mainly old DH parts I had kicking around with the intention of using it as a mini DH bike that&#39;s easier to push (or even ride) up local DH tracks but just as fast as my DH bike down... Let&#39;s just say I wasn&#39;t dissapointed (it&#39;s actually faster and a lot less effort on many DH sections than my DH race bikes)</p> <p>Travel = 115mm rear coil sprung pushed Fox Vanilla R, 140mm fixed Pike SL</p> <p>Geometry</p> <p>65deg HA, 12.6&quot; BB, 16.5&quot; CS, 43.75 WB, </p> <p>Weight ~37lb </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-616653 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:53:20 +0000 higgo 616653@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote><strong>flowmtbguy</strong> said... my old (Higgo&#39;s current) 4x was best when I had some Fox 36&#39;s on the front at 160mm - with 115mm at the back...)</blockquote></p> <p>It&#39;s pretty damn good with a 55 on it - wound down to ~140mm a lot of the time (there are no ski lifts in the Peaks) and out to 160mm when I point it down something fun. </p> <p>And here&#39;s an old pic of it (Pikes at the time ) ...</p> <p><img src="http://chestermtb.co.uk/forum/uploads/1206279240/gallery_22_216_213621.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/4x-bikes-latest-trend-or-used-for-intended-purpose/page/2#post-616489 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:26:01 +0000 glynP 616489@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>This is a great post </p>