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		<title>Singletrack Forum &#187; User Favorites: geoffj</title>
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			<title>markyd on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3399914</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 21:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>markyd</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;This wasn't a name and shame, the seller and I were still talking, he had not refused to return the money, hence not naming. We resolved it amicably with no hard feelings either side.
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			<title>cynic-al on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391594</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>cynic-al</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Got to be closer to 4 weeks, I'd agree 2/3 is marginal.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>Northwind on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391559</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Northwind</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;RichPenny - Member&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If I was sending something of value I wouldn't agree to that.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Me neither tbh. When people have demanded it I straight away assume they're on the scam tbh.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>boxelder on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391469</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>boxelder</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;To reiterate what someone said...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;    i think it is about time a sticky was put up to post bad sellers.&#60;br /&#62;
    ARE YOU LISTENING MODS??? a chance to do something usefull eh? &#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Except this is one item missing in the post (with proof of it being sent). I don't think 2/3 weeks at this time of year is excessive to wait, if genuinely missing with RM.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've had stuff off NCBoy before and (still) have him on my 'good guy to be trusted' list - so unless you've had personal experience of someone on the classifieds, I don't think your input counts.
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			<title>druidh on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391448</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>druidh</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I do think that some general trading rules should be in place;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;e.g. it's the sellers responsibility to get it there.
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			<title>cynic-al on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391424</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>cynic-al</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;They can't really so that without evidence tho, it would turn into a bun fight, and there's about of that, as above &#60;img src=&#34;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif&#34; title=&#34;:roll:&#34; class=&#34;bb_smilies&#34; alt=&#34;&#34;/&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>takisawa2 on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391362</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>takisawa2</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;To reiterate what someone said...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;i think it is about time a sticky was put up to post bad sellers.&#60;br /&#62;
ARE YOU LISTENING MODS??? a chance to do something usefull eh? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
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			<title>NorthCountryBoy on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391357</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>NorthCountryBoy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;once again thanks for the input
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			<title>cynic-al on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391321</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>cynic-al</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Only trying to short cut matters fella.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If he's being honest then you'll get your £12 - shame it took this for you not to be a Realman eh?
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			<title>NorthCountryBoy on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3391309</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>NorthCountryBoy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi markyd now fully refunded the £12 for the stem and postage and packing. Sorry the item didnt make it to you, as you know I did post it first class to get to you by christmas (copy of the proof of postage emailed) I have now taken out a claim with the Post office as I have no stem and no £12. Guess thats my problem and I will take it on chin.&#60;br /&#62;
cynic-al thanks for the input.&#60;br /&#62;
Have a nice day
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			<title>Wally on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390534</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Exactly, this has happened to me. Lost in post, Tuffnels own up to losing it. Will the seller actually claim back the money and send it to me? Well it's been over a month - so I guess not. £35 lost.&#60;br /&#62;
NEVER reply to an email only - INSIST on knowing forum name.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I know his actual name and where he works - but he has one last chance before I try the &#34;who knows...&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But then not many people are into LiPo batteries and conversions and DIY lights  - so the field is quite narrow. MH I await a refund.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>davidtaylforth on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390465</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>davidtaylforth</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Of course its the sellers responsibility. I think I've sold a couple of items that have gone missing in the post. I waited the 15 days, refunded the buyer and then claimed off the Royal Mail. No hassles really.
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			<title>dobiejessmo on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390451</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dobiejessmo</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It is but not with police forces.Staffordshire police lost my dads driving licence and he had to claim it back thats a joke and i work for Royal Mail.If your face fits hay.
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			<title>RichPenny on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390423</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>RichPenny</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;Absolutely- only exception IMO is if you as a buyer are paying the postage and you specify an uninsured service to save yourself money.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If I was sending something of value I wouldn't agree to that. I still think that ultimately you'd be liable, since you are engaging the courier.
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			<title>Junkyard on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390401</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Junkyard</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;yes I would expect it and ask i dont insure/signed for cheap stuff but have postage receipts so I can claim easily
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			<title>ton on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390400</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ton</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;sellers problem, not yours.&#60;br /&#62;
he should send your cash back, then clain from the post office or whoever.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;i think it is about time a sticky was put up to post bad sellers.&#60;br /&#62;
ARE YOU LISTENING MODS???  a chance to do something usefull eh?
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			<title>cynic-al on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390377</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>cynic-al</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It's the stw name, shame and flame game!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/northcountryboy&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/northcountryboy&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>Northwind on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390362</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Northwind</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Absolutely- only exception IMO is if you as a buyer are paying the postage and you specify an uninsured service to save yourself money. Not the case here I assume though.
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			<title>njee20 on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390355</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>njee20</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;All recorded delivery is good for is proving an item arrived - its not handled any differently, nor is it tracked, you have to get Special Delivery for that.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Definitely sellers responsibility though, no two ways about it. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Name and shame, I'm off to sharpen my pitch fork.
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			<title>Matt24k on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390214</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt24k</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It should be sent insured and signed for so that no one loses out. It takes a long time to get the insurance money back from the Post Office but that's the sellers problem not yours. If the seller didn't send it &#34;Signed For&#34; which costs and extra 75p on a first or second class item, then that's their problem too.
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			<title>scaredypants on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390198</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>scaredypants</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Of course - theirs until they get it to you.  If they don't hand-deliver then they have subcontracted to PO, not you&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They can claim back from PO to whatever level of insurance cover the postage incorporated but SHOULD repay you now IMO&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(bah !)
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			<title>RichPenny on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390196</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>RichPenny</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Of course. The seller has employed the delivery company so has recourse to reimbursement from them. You have received nothing, so the seller has not carried out his part of the transaction. Full refund due. If they were utterly pedantic I guess they could withhold the postage costs but that seems arsey.
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			<title>john_l on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390194</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>john_l</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes. Seller's responsible for getting stuff to you.
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			<title>druidh on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390189</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>druidh</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes. It's the sellers responsibility to get it to you.
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			<title>markyd on "Classified forum etiquette"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/classified-forum-etiquette#post-3390180</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>markyd</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;If you bought something on the classifieds, and it failed to arrive (lost in post, with proof of posting), would you expect to be reimbursed by the seller? Item was advertised as price inc postage.
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			<title>Frankers on "Plotting Customers on a map"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/plotting-customers-on-a-map#post-3102959</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Frankers</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;You need Microsoft MapPoint......&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/virtualearth/WindowsLiveWriter/OvercomingPushpinLimitationsinMapPoint20_992E/image_10.png&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It does exactly what you need, mail me as i can help obtaining a copy
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			<title>don simon on "Plotting Customers on a map"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/plotting-customers-on-a-map#post-3102940</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>don simon</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;would also be good if i could then plot a route to them all in the shortest way but lets start with plotting them!&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
You could always use your brain and experience for this, just a thought like.
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			<title>user-removed on "Plotting Customers on a map"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/plotting-customers-on-a-map#post-3102935</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>user-removed</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;wtf?
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			<title>geoffj on "Plotting Customers on a map"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/plotting-customers-on-a-map#post-3102926</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>geoffj</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ooops, sorry, I resurrected this when looking for some old info and pasted into the wrong thread  &#60;img src=&#34;http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_redface.gif&#34; title=&#34;:oops:&#34; class=&#34;bb_smilies&#34; alt=&#34;&#34;/&#62; &#60;/p&#62;</description>
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			<title>mucker on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2860190</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mucker</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks to all, great to have different peoples thoughts on it, lots of usefull information and links to further sources. Hive intelligence is wonderful.
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			<title>TheFunkyMonkey on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2860008</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>TheFunkyMonkey</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;indeed you are quite correct, however I did say simplest. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That's how I run mine and to be honest it works quite well overall. I just leave the timer/stat set on the boiler permenantly a usual and when the stove is lit, the boiler doesn't fire up. Its only a 7kw stove so dont really notice much heatsinking.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Have a magnaclean duo fitted anyhow on the return. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The stove is right at the end of the main of the flow/return, not ideal but it was the easiest place to do it. Thermostatic valves fitted everywhere except the bathroom, which is locked open
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			<title>totalshell on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859976</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>totalshell</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Fm .. sounds nice but how will the water circulate as the pump in the boiler will be off.. and i'd run the mother of all magnetec/ fernox sytems to keep the crud out of the combi.. and the stove will be a massive heat sink if its not lit but the boiler is.. not looking for negatives but finding plenty
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			<title>PePPeR on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859507</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>PePPeR</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Esse do one too.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.esse.com/pdfs/Centraliser.pdf&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.esse.com/pdfs/Centraliser.pdf&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As do Stovax&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Esse version is around £300 or so IIRC
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			<title>TheFunkyMonkey on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859439</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>TheFunkyMonkey</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It's a combi boiler, just run the main flow and return through the back boiler for the simplest solution. Then when the boiler is running, the stove will heat the rads but not fire the burner as it won't be required.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Other way really would be to treat it as a separate system, far more complicated and expensive involving a new pump, relays, zone valve, stat etc etc&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You're not going to be able to use it for hot water production anyway, so forget that one unless you want to fit a tank and rum the combi as a system boiler
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			<title>still s8tannorm on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859197</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>still s8tannorm</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I've done it using a Dunsley Neutralizer ... don't be fooled it's just a metal junction box, nothing fancy in there at all, no valves, no baffles, no nothing. Dunsley are also a little slow at helping out with advice, etc.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's quite a complicated job, you may find it hard to convince a plumber / heating engineer to look at it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good luck.
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			<title>totalshell on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859100</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>totalshell</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;plenty of issues..  cost must not be one as it will..  if you just use the stove as a heat only source for the ch would be the easiest but.. you ll have to find some way of running the pump in the boiler or by passing it with a seperate pump for when the stove is on you could do this by zoning off both appliances you have to have a store somehwere for the stoves heat and again that would need zoning off generating DHW from the stove though would be vastly more complex and impracticable in my opinion.&#60;br /&#62;
my professional opinion would be keep the stove seperate. for the money you ll spend and potential issues with mananging a quite sophisticated syatem you ll never save money.
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			<title>Stoner on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859074</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Stoner</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;thermal store would be my first port of call. Also alows you to add solar thermal very easily.
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			<title>geoffj on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859060</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>geoffj</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Going through the same thoughts at the moment. There are 2 basic ways of doing it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;1. Combining the heat sources and using the existing CH and HW circuits. For this you need a Neutralizer or a fancier version of it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Neutraliser - &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.dunsleyheat.co.uk/neutralizerpics.htm&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.dunsleyheat.co.uk/neutralizerpics.htm&#60;/a&#62; or&#60;br /&#62;
H2 Panel &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.h2panel.co.uk/h2index.htm&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.h2panel.co.uk/h2index.htm&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;2. Using a thermal store to power the HW and CH. This would involve a new tank, but maybe the more efficient way of doing it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.newarkcoppercylinder.co.uk/cylinders/solar_thermal_store/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.newarkcoppercylinder.co.uk/cylinders/solar_thermal_store/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This also allows you to plumb a solar feed in.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Decisions, decisions!
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			<title>TheBrick on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859044</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>TheBrick</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Defiantly possible. Possible method below perhaps?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If the oil system is open vented (don't know if you can get unvented oil systems) I think you can do it easily and directly by more or less plumbing the woodburner into the primary system. If not I think you would have to go down the route of a thermal store with the unvented system on a coil and the vented system on the main thermal store fluid / primary system. Not an expert plumber just bits I've picked up on a few systems.
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			<title>mucker on "Central heating system with two heat sources?"</title>
			<link>http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/central-heating-system-with-two-heat-sources#post-2859001</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mucker</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ok folks here's one to test you. We currently have an oil fired combi boiler, heating hot water and radiators, we also have an open fire in the lounge where a solid fuel central heating stove once was.&#60;br /&#62;
We want to install a woodburning stove with a boiler/waterjacket and re-connect to the central heating system in place of the open fire and intergrate the two heating systems so that the two boilers can be run separately or in tandem.&#60;br /&#62;
Can it be done, are there different methods, are there any acknowledged experts in this field, does anyone have any experience and are there definite do's and don'ts?
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