brant en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:42:35 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3441330 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:44:07 +0000 juan 3441330@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>cheers sunnrider, i'll try and see if I can borrow the bike for more than just a day though. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3440617 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:47:38 +0000 sunnrider 3440617@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I put together a carbon ransom last year and it is a bit of a pig uphill (I´ve got heavy tyres on) but it does give plenty of traction. </p> <p>Downhill it´s given me confidence to take on stuff at speed that I used to walk around/chicken run through. It´s a very comfortable bike to ride. I don´t know that you´d call it agile as I haven´t got much to compare it to but there´s plenty of vids with pros flicking and whipping ransoms about on youtube.</p> <p>Get the hang of switching through the shock modes and it will handle pretty much anything. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3440560 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:24:19 +0000 juan 3440560@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Well we'll be test riding it. Problem is, it won't be where the SO want to test ride it and I am sure it will be a nightmare (because she is already scaring herself about it, and she says this particular trail isn't good to test ride the bike). But we'll see worst case scenario we'll get the tanuki. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3439856 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:23:17 +0000 jay_tht 3439856@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Juan I have a carbon one and have to say I do like it alot, I say it befine for what you want.. I had a couple problems with rear shock when I first got the bike some 4/5 years ago.. My bike is about 32.6 lbs it climbs well and is fun on the downs slow or fast.. </p> <p>If you local to us you welcome to have a go its a small frame.. </p> <p>If not is there away of you getting a test ride on it before you buy.? To see what you think of it..</p> <p>Jay </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3439524 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:26:50 +0000 turbo1397 3439524@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>not a bike i would call nimble.. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3439327 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:46:22 +0000 juan 3439327@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Cheers, but as I have said I want to know if the bike is going to feel sluggish DOWNHILL for a non fast rider on the learning curve. I don't care how the bike react uphill. It's how agile and nimbly the bike is downhill I am more interested in. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438938 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:34:43 +0000 turbo1397 3438938@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>As a few peeps have mentioned , it will be a bit of a slog uphill but great on the way down.. i had an alu one but kitted out with xtr and X0 spec stuff.. still weighed quite a lot, if you could get your hands on the ransom ltd it would prob be better.. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438231 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:38:08 +0000 juan 3438231@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Ok it's either the tanuki or the Scott. She already has a FS but after trying mine she says (and she'll be right) her doesn't work as well. She's about 1.63m and 55 kg </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438226 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:37:45 +0000 neil853 3438226@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The Ransom is a relatively plush bike, I would think it'll be fine for the smaller/lighter rider. I rode mine for the MM 24 hr events, the alps and other xc events. Depends on price though, they don't command a lot...... </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438202 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:33:21 +0000 b r 3438202@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I suspect if she just wants a FS but just wants to ride, she'd be far better with something like an Anthem X.</p> <p>But how tall/heavy is your SO? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438192 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:31:33 +0000 juan 3438192@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Going to the top won't be a problem as it will be kitted fairly light (1700g pair of wheels, xtr rear mech, AMSL fork so probably getting around the 13 kg mark) it's more going down that worries me. The SO is going rather slow, she's technically very good but she won't be travelling at speed, so I fear the scott will be good only when you go down hard and fast. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438190 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:30:54 +0000 neil853 3438190@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>is it the carbon one? If it is then it'll be a much more usable weight. The alloy one is far from light. </p> <p>I had a carbon one for three years, only reason I changed it as I wante a lighter/shorter travel bike. Very capable bike IMO </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438180 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:28:50 +0000 TimP 3438180@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>It (the Ransom) is OK if you reduce the rear travel for going along and up. Mine was base model (old Al one so if not sure how the later carbon and AL ones compare as geo did change a bit) so the forks weighed a ton and I really felt it on the ups. It is also pretty long (I fell off some woodwork as the back wheel wasn't where I expected it to be). I loved it going downhill, but it was always a bit of a grind getting to the top </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438146 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:21:08 +0000 juan 3438146@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Ok not sure I have made myself clear. Will the scott be ok for someone riding slow? Wouldn't it feel too sluggish? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438140 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:19:55 +0000 b r 3438140@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>It'll be a good 'skill-compensator'..., and yes, when she does crashes it'll be hard and fast.</p> <p>Been there (S-Works Enduro), done that. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scott-randsom-for-a-slow-rider-on-the-rising-curve-bad-idea#post-3438132 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:18:34 +0000 juan 3438132@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Well the SO has decided she needs a new bike (no actually I as stupid enough to lend her my meta and now she says she doesn't want hers any more).</p> <p>Being, first on a budget, second faithful to our LBS the two choices are either a brand new kona tanuki frame or the LBS owner's scott randsom frame.<br /> So far the SO prefers the look of the Tanuki, but would be quit happy with the weight benefit of the randsom.<br /> however I am wondering is the randsom isn't the kind of bike that can only be ridden hard?</p> <p>Obviously, she'll test ride the later but still I'd love some insight. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2796968 Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:49:38 +0000 smartay 2796968@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>ti456neal</p> <p>Possibley interested in the Ragley's, I take it they're alloy and 31.8 clamp </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2775294 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:50:20 +0000 Mc smiley 2775294@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Have you got pictures of the E13 please? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2774950 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:30:24 +0000 sprocker 2774950@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>go on danc paypal gift to addy in profile<br /> ti456 not quite wide enough for me thanks for the offer </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2774533 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:36:50 +0000 danc 2774533@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Take £20 for the Rampages? <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2774168 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:48:53 +0000 ti456neal 2774168@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The wiser is 710mm wide and has 38mm rise. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2773225 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:28:10 +0000 sprocker 2773225@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Fitment is ICSG 05 I ran a 36t but think it will go a touch bigger </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2773110 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:07:53 +0000 sprocker 2773110@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>will do link to pics on here later. £18 for the trailrakers </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2773109 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:07:51 +0000 Conway 2773109@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>What size chainring is the chain device for and what fitment is it?</p> <p>Thanks Conway </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2773086 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:04:14 +0000 Conway 2773086@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>£15 for the trail rakers?</p> <p>Also interested in the chain device, could you send me a pic please? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2773071 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:01:00 +0000 sprocker 2773071@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>How wide and what is the rise? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2773066 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:59:39 +0000 ti456neal 2773066@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I've got some ragley wiser bars in black if you're interested? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-clearout-tiresthom-post-heim-2-etc#post-2773059 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:57:26 +0000 sprocker 2773059@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>E13 Heim 2 double chain device (lower roller) no bash, well used but works fine £10<br /> Thompson 31.6mm seat post cut to 380mm well used so anodising worn but totally sound £20 posted<br /> Panaracer Rampage fodling tires, pair loads of life left £23<br /> Panaracer Trailrakers 2.1, i folding 1 wire bead, loads on them £20 posted.<br /> Raceface Atlas FR bar, low rise in green cut to 740mm few marks but not much had about 8 months use £25 posted or swap for something similar in black. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2553732 Tue, 10 May 2011 22:44:18 +0000 andytherocketeer 2553732@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Gave up with their reviews. Even those from an apparently highly respected MTBer and journalist.<br /> Last thing I looked at was brakes, which got the dog's danglies 4.5/5* review (probably a Formula rather than Hope fanboi), then went back a few days later and suddenly they are 2/5* because they were reviewed by someone else (who's probably a Hope rather than Formula fanboi). And if you comment, they reply saying that they changed the way they award scores.</p> <p>Never ridden a Fritzz, so can't comment on that, but I wouldn't believe a review, and certainly wouldn't make a decision based on the number of stars it got (especially when marked down for component or tyre spec... when most bikes have 3-4 levels of compnent choice anyway). </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2553694 Tue, 10 May 2011 22:23:45 +0000 monotokpoint 2553694@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Seems to depend what mood the hack is in; </p> <p><a href="http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/mountain/product/review-cube-bikes-fritzz-08-29427/">BikeRadar Fritzz review</a></p> <p>I've got one (custom build) and love it. Best thing to do is try a demo for yourself, if you have the opportunity, and make your own mind up. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2553632 Tue, 10 May 2011 22:02:28 +0000 B.A.Nana 2553632@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I've got a 2010 Stereo, which is a slightly shorter travel version, still low and long tho. MBR had it in a test last year and gave it 9/10 (orange 5 and Lapierre Zesty scored 10/10), they docked the Stereo a point because they said the BB was too low, so I immediately bought one. So far I'm loving it, super confidence inspiring downhill and when messing around on rocks and stuff. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2553226 Tue, 10 May 2011 20:26:40 +0000 mafiafish 2553226@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I borrowed one for a razz down glentress black and even though the suspension was set up for someone a stone lighter than me it was still fantatsic, very forgiving and corners like a beast. The new enduro is supposedly the bees knees too I wouldn't take any notice of what mbr say, group reviews are mostly done in an afternoon of plodding around a trail centre getting evermore jaded with each lap. I'd be much more inclined to listen to long term reviews or the ones where bikes have been taken away for a week of riding </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2553224 Tue, 10 May 2011 20:26:29 +0000 ljs1977 2553224@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I bought a Cube Stereo team, almost in spite of the average reviews from the "other mags"</p> <p>I asked other people (who own one!) what they thought<br /> I rode one!!!<br /> I weighed up the whole bike because at £2k I was not swapping an bits any time soon<br /> I bought it<br /> I love it!!!</p> <p>Note the excessive use of I, because all said and done the I don't care if the bloke next tome on the O5 likes my bike</p> <p>Up yours MBR MBUK! By the way Dirt and Single track liked the bike and the month before MBUK recommended it in one of the letters. Go figure </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2553173 Tue, 10 May 2011 20:17:01 +0000 stevenieve 2553173@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>MBUK review here of Fritzz Pro.<br /> Fritzz SL looks such a tidy bike</p> <p><a href="http://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/product/cubefritzzprofullsuspensionmountainbike2011.aspx?&amp;id=15378" rel="nofollow">http://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/product/cubefritzzprofullsuspensionmountainbike2011.aspx?&amp;id=15378</a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2553069 Tue, 10 May 2011 19:58:11 +0000 matty B 2553069@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I've had one for a year and have no issues with it. Head angle is slack enough to make it stable DH, you just need to get used to different handling on flat techy trails to a more upright shorter travel bike, but equally its not as extreme as a Ragley which everyone rates...<br /> Shock doesn't suffer any more from mud than other designs as they spec a mudguard so no issues there and the FSR style linkage gives loads of traction and grip. Nice low BB too. I've just spent a week ragging mine up and down natural trails in the lakes and Scottish trail centres and had no issues anyhow. The standard steering setup is a bit suspect though, stems too long and the bar is an acquired taste but bearing in mind the price its sorted by an easy upgrade.<br /> Try one and see, I rated it over the Spicy and Enduro I tried but its all down to what you like. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2552542 Tue, 10 May 2011 17:50:17 +0000 fergal 2552542@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Sorry my mistake it's not MBR but mountain biking UK, i don't have a copy but just browsing in sainsbury's oops, think it was the spicy but don't quote me on that, the Ariel Saracen scores 4!! stars. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2552510 Tue, 10 May 2011 17:38:31 +0000 aditude 2552510@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><strong>@ Fergal:</strong> which MBR issue are you looking at which rates the Cube as 2.5, Enduro 3 and Lapierre 5 (Zesty or Spicy curiously)? Am in the process of ordering a Lapierre Spicy based on recommendations by other people and old reviews from 2008 and 2009. Unfortunately not had the chance to test ride which would have been ideal. The other bike I was interested is the Canondale Jekyll but not available till July. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2552486 Tue, 10 May 2011 17:27:09 +0000 Fortunateson09 2552486@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Head angle makes it handle like a proper boat IMO. Also, the OEM handlebars are the world's most awful bike component ever in the world ever. Great spec for the money, but I'm really not a fan of the handling. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2552450 Tue, 10 May 2011 17:17:56 +0000 fergal 2552450@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>OH maybe i won't, it was the handling when it got technical they didn't like, it amazes me how manufacturers can get it so wrong according to these reviews. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cube-fritz-am-is-it-pants#post-2552444 Tue, 10 May 2011 17:14:48 +0000 fergal 2552444@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Yeah Bullheart maybe i will try the fritz. </p> <p>I can't even say they are German bashing as the Canyon won a shootout. </p>