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Posted on: December 20, 2012
sillyoldman said on December 20, 2012
I’d be interested to hear about chain retention in a few months. That c/ring is already showing wear through use of the lower gears and the extreme chainline that entails. Once that material has gone, how can the ring “hold on” to the chain?
akak said on December 20, 2012
Can we go back to 1 story = 1 page?
danielgroves said on December 20, 2012
Like sillyoldman said, it will be interesting to see how well the system keeps hold of the chain once it’s worn significantly. I’d also be concerned about the longevity of the parts, £330 for a cassette and £50 for a chain isn’t cheap. Christ, how many people can even afford to blow £1000 on a drivetrain on that note.
How much will the chainrings be?
zbonty said on December 20, 2012
How much?? F.R.O!!
Jezkidd said on December 20, 2012
New clothes your majesty?
Dave said on December 20, 2012
I seem to remember a similar reaction to news of 2×10 and ten speed in general 😉
adriangarland said on December 20, 2012
Looks like a great bit of kit but HOW MUCH!!!!
There ain’t no cassette that can justify that price.
speaker2animals said on December 20, 2012
Wasn’t the RRP for an XX cassette almost £500 when that was released? It’s still an indecent amount of money but remember a SRAM Red road mech is something like £315. For possibly the most exposed item of equipment on a bike? Truly pro level IMHO. The question is whether there will be trickle down but I doubt it would ever reach X5/X7 level but what do I know?
As for wear – to be honest any piece of shiny new kit will take a rapid aesthetic battering. I’m not saying one shouldn’t question longevity, I’m just not one to jump on the “oh look it’s only been used for 3 weeks and looks knacked”. I am interested to see how it does wear and how performance deteriorates.
Special_ized_Jamie said on December 20, 2012
I really hope they quickly release this in X9/X0 at more sensible pricing. I think in theory is sound great but I don’t know anyone who would take a punt and try it out for £1000. Half that would still be a bit of pain in the wallet and give me second thoughts.
mtbfix said on December 20, 2012
The brief interview with the product manager for XX1 in WMTB this month suggests the trickle down may be slow in coming.
interzen said on December 20, 2012
Anyone remember the old Suntour Alpine 14-38T freewheel from *mumble* years ago? There ain’t nothing new under the sun ….
I’ll stick with my Alfine-11 for now – one chainring, one cog and about half the cost.
Speaker – I have no problem with aesthetic battering, but given that the chainring holds the chain on via contact with both inner and outer chain plates, the visible physical wear will potentially lessen this hold – no?
james said on December 20, 2012
“would the gearing allow me to pedal up everything I normally would”
if you work it out, its (on paper) equivalent to:
– 22T granny (ie 9spd) and a 27T sprocket, about 2 gears less
– 24T granny (ie 10spd triple/’trail’ double) and a ‘29.5’T sprocket, about 1.5 gears less
– 26T granny (ie 10spd small* ‘XC’ double) and a 32T sprocket, about a gear less
*obviously available are 27 and 29T 10spd ‘XC’ doubles,and other combos?
“climb that usually has me in the granny ring and large cog in the back I looked down and saw I still had a cog left with XX1”
jambo13 said on December 20, 2012
Looks nice, but way too pricey!
rosscopeco said on December 20, 2012
So…inc the cranks that’s just over the £1k mark. Interzen +1 think ill stick with me Rohloff…no chain slap, 14 gears, no dropped chain, bla, bla, bla. Yes it’s a little lardy, but I’ll be adding to the lard around my waist over the next 2 weeks anyway….it’s all relative.
Ben_Haworth said on December 20, 2012
As someone who seems to use 22/36t ratio (lonnng steep climbs) I’ve kinda gone off the idea of XX1 setup. Not *quite* low enough gearing. Still think it could be ideal for Enduro racers and such like.
juan said on December 21, 2012
What do you mean ben, enduro riders are lazy buggers who never pedal up?
littlegirlbunny said on December 23, 2012
Really excited to hear the long term feedback. It’s expensive now, but if the concept truly works, then innovative may become the norm and imitated, so bringing prices down.
oblong said on December 24, 2012
Would be good if Sram tried to come up with a similar weight internal hub instead of a £350 quid cassette and equally silly priced rear der that will still get twatted by debris….
it’s great capitalism though that a system that has one chainring, a rear der and a cassette is more expensive than many 3 ring devices…sure, it is made to be light but come on! Still want one though ha ha
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