Oranges are the only fruit (in the show anyway)

by Chipps 22

Orange has been very busy this year. While most of the bikes appear unchanged, there’s a load going on under the surface. And apart from this Yorkshire based citrus brand, we’ve not really seen a great deal of real oranges here…

First off there’s the P7. Now all beefed up for the CEN standard (despite the fact that they never appear to fail in real life) the frame gained some gussets last year. It’s still a popular model and here is shown in the custom pink and ”Turd’ brown paint job.

If you have an in-house powdercoat facility, you might as well abuse it.

The P7 has gained sliding dropouts and all that stuff in the last few years, but some folks wanted a simpler bike. Here's the P7 'Pure' with regular vertical dropouts and 'not-Reynolds' tubing. The bike complete will be £999

The new Orange Crush gains a tapered head tube and the complete bike price comes in at a very reasonable £1399.

Crush gets a flared head tube too. £1399 or so.

The Orange guys were very excited about the new Orange Elite: It’s a race or all day or ’10 hour race’  bike. It has a tapered headtube and is designed for 100mm forks. It’s one of the lighted Orange bikes ever made. In ‘Pro’ spec  (XT/Hope/Fox/Avid) it comes in at £1899. There’ll also be a frame-only option. We’re keen to get one in on test.

It's a bike for the new style of XC/big day racer. 15mm forks and flared headtube on a very light chassis.

Who said XC riders didn't like stiffness?

There’s a new Orange ST4 too. As the Five has become a little more burly (with its slacker, flared headtube ways and its optional Maxle back end) so the ST4 has resolutely stayed ‘XC all day/bumbling around’ focused. For 2011 the linkage changes to a swing link aimed at reducing flex. Rear travel is ‘110mm-ish’ for an intended 120mm fork. It remains the bike that 50% of Five buyers should really get instead as it’s a perfectly capable trail bike with a lighter feel.

New ST4, new stiffer link.
ST4 Diva. Comes in a 15.5in size only.

The Alpine 160 gets a few tweaks to keep it current, including a flared headtube (that houses a Cane Creek Angleset  – allowing for a couple of degrees’ head angle tweaking) and a new, larger 31.6 seattube ready for droppy seatposts.

Cane Creek Angleset appears on many of Orange's bigger bikes.

Comments (22)

  1. Nice badge in that last pic…

  2. love the new st4 i would imagine it would be a great allrounder for uk riding.verrrry nice

  3. ” It remains the bike that 50% of Five buyers should really get instead as it’s a perfectly capable trail bike with a lighter feel.”

    Explain…

  4. as it’s a perfectly capable trail bike

    I think that’s probably the explanation..

  5. Explain…

    Because many buy a Five but then never ride beyond what the very capable ST4 can do… ST4 does 90% of what a Five can do and does it better IMO.

  6. 15mm forks and flared headtube on a very light chassis.

    That seems a contradiction to me. Most XC/big day racer are tiny do they want big forks?

  7. Like the ST4 proto vid. Proves a point i think

  8. Whats the CEN standard?

  9. Looking forward to some reviews of the st4. Think I’ll have more chance of getting a demo than I would with a turner.

  10. Nice Vid. My ST4 has meant the Pace405 I have hasn’t been ridden much at all. I’m going to try the ST4 in the peaks if it comes in time and assuming it’s good up there, the Pace will be going.

    It’s not even that it’s particularly light compared to the 5, it’s just very “usable” for all types of trail and terrain. Enough bike for me by some distance.

  11. Prefer the look of the new ST4 and as much as I like the Five my puffy riding would be fine with a ST4 I’m sure. Like that new Elite but terrible paint job. Looks like one of those cheapo catalogue bikes rather than the jobs on Treks/Lapierres for example. But like the idea of the bike. In fact probably more use to me than an ST4.

  12. I agree, the paint job on the Elite is awful.

  13. And watching the vid (again) the ST4 definitely outrides me! Can I have an XX gillet please?

  14. When you see and ELITE for real it looks really nice!

  15. I think this is interesting. when the st4 came out people weren’t really sure what it was for. now people have come round to it. funny old world.
    nice to see orange getting back to their cross country racing roots.

  16. The ST4 looks great, i have spent the last 6 months buying components for a new Morewood zula frame, now ive finished i have spotted this and has thrown a right spanner in the works. tough decision i think.

    do you think it will come in white?

  17. @gregory…i believe you can get Oranges in any colour you like.

    agree the new ST4 looks groovy, think we caught a glimpse of it in the background of the STW / Mojo feature a few issues ago?
    It’s like a Blood but for more good eh?

  18. 15mm forks and flared headtube on a very light chassis.

    That seems a contradiction to me. Most XC/big day racer are tiny do they want big forks?

    A taper steerer fork could be both lighter and stiffer, great for XC; it’s not just a technology that’s appropriate for “big forks.” Check out the carbon tapered steerers of road forks and some of the new Rock Shox.

  19. What is it that makes white bikes look so good? went on the orange web site and the frame only never came up as having colour options like the Five frame does.

  20. The Five was the perfect UK bike until they slackened the head angle in 2009. I never understood why since the Alpine had that option covered. The pre 2009 bike is great on singletrack and climbs very well as well as being brilliant downhill. It also feels willing and eager to tackle anything and never feels like it’s ‘too much bike’. The current version is dull in comparison, unresponsive through tight singletrack and the front wanders on steep climbs. Orange have just copied the other European bike manufacturers who mostly changed to slacker head angles. This makes sense for lift assisted downhill biking found in Europe but it’s not ideal for the UK.

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