Comments on: The Saracen Ariel http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:57:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Singletrack World » Sneak Peek – Saracen’s New Ariel Full Susser http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-7860 Singletrack World » Sneak Peek – Saracen’s New Ariel Full Susser Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:04:12 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-7860 [...] from the prototype you’ll have seen a few months back (original story here: http://www.singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/) include the new 1.5”-1,1/8” tapered headtube and new CNC’d linkage which helps shed a bit of [...] [...] from the prototype you’ll have seen a few months back (original story here: http://www.singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/) include the new 1.5”-1,1/8” tapered headtube and new CNC’d linkage which helps shed a bit of [...]

]]> By: Tim http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5643 Tim Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:35:36 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5643 hmm, very interesting be interested to see final prices, options and sizing (Centre to Top?) when its all confirmed... hmm, very interesting

be interested to see final prices, options and sizing (Centre to Top?) when its all confirmed…

]]> By: piebloke http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5622 piebloke Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:41:13 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5622 I'd go for no more than 160mm as it will slacken things off too much. With 160 you could build a mini-mega bike by putting the ISCG mounts to good use. Sizes - 15" 17" 19"... Frame only - maybe and its only a mybe at present! I’d go for no more than 160mm as it will slacken things off too much. With 160 you could build a mini-mega bike by putting the ISCG mounts to good use.
Sizes – 15″ 17″ 19″…
Frame only – maybe and its only a mybe at present!

]]> By: Tim http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5599 Tim Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:07:46 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5599 Interesting! What is the maximum fork length? work with a 160mm fork? Frame only option? Sizes? - how small does it go? Interesting!

What is the maximum fork length? work with a 160mm fork?

Frame only option?

Sizes? – how small does it go?

]]> By: piebloke http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5581 piebloke Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:24:45 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5581 Cool. Cheers for the feedback. Just back from Hawaii. We're still in testing mode to make sure everythings right before production. Looking at 3 models - starting at 1600 bananas for a Fox RP23/vanilla 140RL/Deore level build. And then around £2k For the SLX version with Float 140 RL 15QR taper steerer and 12mm rear axle. Range tops out around £3K with the XT version, Maxle rear, FIT damping Float. Prices are vauge at the moment as were still tweaking specs! Details will be confirmed in due course and we'll be keeping the blog updated with the progress with a view to the bikes going on sale in Feb 2010 Cheers Simon Cool. Cheers for the feedback.
Just back from Hawaii.
We’re still in testing mode to make sure everythings right before production.
Looking at 3 models – starting at 1600 bananas for a Fox RP23/vanilla 140RL/Deore level build.
And then around £2k For the SLX version with Float 140 RL 15QR taper steerer and 12mm rear axle.
Range tops out around £3K with the XT version, Maxle rear, FIT damping Float.
Prices are vauge at the moment as were still tweaking specs!
Details will be confirmed in due course and we’ll be keeping the blog updated with the progress with a view to the bikes going on sale in Feb 2010
Cheers
Simon

]]> By: joeditch http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5577 joeditch Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:01:05 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5577 i'm sorry but that looks good for a saracen! props to the designer! i’m sorry but that looks good for a saracen! props to the designer!

]]> By: Cheeky Monkey http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5573 Cheeky Monkey Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:49:12 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5573 "however small a difference it could be" Small difference indeed, probably nothing noticable. Which is what I was commenting on, to paraphrase "it's a lovely design with a low cofg thanks to that low shock" Whereas I don't reckon the change in cofg thanks to the shock position will matter a toss when you're riding. “however small a difference it could be”

Small difference indeed, probably nothing noticable. Which is what I was commenting on, to paraphrase “it’s a lovely design with a low cofg thanks to that low shock” Whereas I don’t reckon the change in cofg thanks to the shock position will matter a toss when you’re riding.

]]> By: Mister P http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5572 Mister P Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:29:50 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5572 Rad to the power sick. Rad to the power sick.

]]> By: james http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5569 james Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:01:43 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5569 "a rider shifting their weight around will make a big difference to the ride. What won’t (IMO) is whether a relatively minor amount of weight just a tiddly bit lower in the frame will do so" Still thinking aloud, surely as the rider is so much heavier than the bike, the rider is more shifting the bike around (granted the wheels are on the ground, but the relative masses/speeds of the rider/bike mean that the rider is shifting the bike around to alarge degree) rather than just moving their weight about on the bike, so the centre of gravity of the bike in relation to the wheels must have some effect to its handling, however small a difference it could be Panniers are always loaded as low as possible surely for similar reasoning? “a rider shifting their weight around will make a big difference to the ride. What won’t (IMO) is whether a relatively minor amount of weight just a tiddly bit lower in the frame will do so”

Still thinking aloud, surely as the rider is so much heavier than the bike, the rider is more shifting the bike around (granted the wheels are on the ground, but the relative masses/speeds of the rider/bike mean that the rider is shifting the bike around to alarge degree) rather than just moving their weight about on the bike, so the centre of gravity of the bike in relation to the wheels must have some effect to its handling, however small a difference it could be
Panniers are always loaded as low as possible surely for similar reasoning?

]]> By: Cheeky Monkey http://singletrackworld.com/2009/10/the-saracen-ariel/#comment-5563 Cheeky Monkey Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:29:11 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=5026#comment-5563 "It all depends if the “the big fat bloke waggling around on top of it several foot up” stays seated the entire time or actually stands over the saddle and leans the bike into corners and so on, ‘working’ the bike surely" Absolutely, I agree a rider shifting their weight around will make a big difference to the ride. What won't (IMO) is whether a relatively minor amount of weight just a tiddly bit lower in the frame will do so, which was what I was commenting on. Hey ho :-8 “It all depends if the “the big fat bloke waggling around on top of it several foot up” stays seated the entire time or actually stands over the saddle and leans the bike into corners and so on, ‘working’ the bike surely”

Absolutely, I agree a rider shifting their weight around will make a big difference to the ride. What won’t (IMO) is whether a relatively minor amount of weight just a tiddly bit lower in the frame will do so, which was what I was commenting on.

Hey ho :-8

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