Comments on: Saracen Revive The Kili Flyer

By: heathy

heathy — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:59:40 +0000

What would the frame cost? I could do with a modern version of my original
Here’s mine [img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/2059751979_709781eaff.jpg[/img]

By: fuzzywig

fuzzywig — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:16:49 +0000

I didn’t mean to offend. Certainly nothing “just” about an Enigma. Like you said some of the best UK built frames going.

By: piebloke

piebloke — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:51:38 +0000

Just to set the record straight – this is our first Cr-Mo prototype.
Its hand made by Mark Reily of Enigma, in the UK, to our geoemtry and frame spec. So its not “just a rebadged” Enigma. We went to Enigma because they build first class frames and are trying to keep UK building skills alive.
Frames or bikes? Good question. We’re looking at both options + different colour options! The purple one looks very very nice but for me its the mint colour attached – How much did I want that bike when I was a nipper??!!? The colour of this one is from the 1988-89 catalog, all of which I am lucky to have on my desk lol.
Saracen never did a £60 full-susser for Halfords. And under Madsion the 2010 range will not be sold through Halfords.
Right, I guess I better get over to retrobike and get the saracen catalogs up.
Cheers
Simon

By: Mister P

Mister P — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:52:28 +0000

Not going to stop, have already stopped.

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By: petefromearth

petefromearth — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:44:40 +0000

looks really good to me – although as mike_at_dialledbikes says, if i was spending £2k on a steel hardtail it probably wouldn’t be off the peg. perhaps they’ll sell the frame separately?

hopefully this means Saracen going to stop making those horrific £60 halfords full sussers!

By: mick_r

mick_r — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:27:48 +0000

Hi Chakaping

We could both be sort of right! I think they carried almost the same bikes across 2 years. Mine was a discounted end of season model with thumbshifters. But they then sold another batch of the same bikes with rapidfire.

Another trawl of Retrobike shows 1992 range was completely different so would fit in with your guess at it being old stock.
http://www.koedjoinery.com/Saracen92Catalogue.pdf

I’ve got the catalogue somewhere in the attic but think it sort of went fillet brazed 89-90
Some E stays, maguras and hideous swirly graphics 90-91
Some E stays and regular graphics 91-92

Farmer John tyres, wolber rims, jumpers for goalposts…..sigh.

By: chakaping

chakaping — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:00:09 +0000

mick_r – 1990 was it? I had that purple Kili as my first new MTB, thought it was ’92 but memory probably playing tricks.

I know I got a discount as it was last year’s model, £800 down to £650 or something.

Going to look for pix later.

By: vernon-sez

vernon-sez — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:15:01 +0000

Mmmm, nice. I had a 1990 Trekker comp – in a tasteful orange with e-stays & Magura hydros. And funky Switchblade forks. I was tempted to rebuild it a few years back til i saw the number of cracks up and down the headtube lol!

Still, great memories – good luck to em with the new (er, retro) stuff

By: messiah

messiah — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:03:19 +0000

I hope these ones get decent geometry – the original ones were built with really short top tubes – ideeal for people with long legs and short torso’s. Add in the saracen standard 150mm stem and you got some quality handling issues. Always good value bits for your cash though…