Comments on: Shhh – Sram XX Updated http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/ Mon, 28 May 2012 23:27:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: EllisO http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2629 EllisO Thu, 28 May 2009 14:14:55 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2629 Why do so many have a problem with technological advances - its called progress. Its the equivalent of saying I'd rather drive around in an Austin 7 than a modern car. I know which I prefer. The extra sprocket gives real advantages (just like the Campy 11 speed on the road, which is a huge leap forward) and the rest of the gruppo will all be better than anything else currently offered. The Luddites amongst us are more than welcome to stick with their outdated and out-moded 6-7-8-9 speed kit. I for one, know what I'll be putting on my next bike. Why do so many have a problem with technological advances – its called progress. Its the equivalent of saying I’d rather drive around in an Austin 7 than a modern car. I know which I prefer.

The extra sprocket gives real advantages (just like the Campy 11 speed on the road, which is a huge leap forward) and the rest of the gruppo will all be better than anything else currently offered.

The Luddites amongst us are more than welcome to stick with their outdated and out-moded 6-7-8-9 speed kit. I for one, know what I’ll be putting on my next bike.

]]> By: Aidy http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2601 Aidy Wed, 27 May 2009 19:26:21 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2601 <i>T25 torx head drivers are supplied with SRAM Brake sets so the T25 driver will beincluded in the groupset. Problem solved..</i> One being supplied doesn't actually solve the "extra tool to carry" problem. T25 torx head drivers are supplied with SRAM Brake sets so the T25 driver will beincluded in the groupset. Problem solved..

One being supplied doesn’t actually solve the “extra tool to carry” problem.

]]> By: thisisnotaspoon http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2574 thisisnotaspoon Wed, 27 May 2009 11:57:12 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2574 what are the upgrades over X.0? Looks like (not saying it is) elxir brakes,a tweaked noir crankset, the existing top-end forks and is that mech stil a prototype? Always fancied bodgeing a groupset form a 11-28 10s cassette, ultegra shifter, 26t trials ring and 38t DMR shift-r. Kinda like a more hardcore XX. what are the upgrades over X.0? Looks like (not saying it is) elxir brakes,a tweaked noir crankset, the existing top-end forks and is that mech stil a prototype?

Always fancied bodgeing a groupset form a 11-28 10s cassette, ultegra shifter, 26t trials ring and 38t DMR shift-r. Kinda like a more hardcore XX.

]]> By: TimBle http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2516 TimBle Tue, 26 May 2009 19:21:13 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2516 T25 torx head drivers are supplied with SRAM Brake sets so the T25 driver will beincluded in the groupset. Problem solved.. 10-speed is fine, been running a 1070 12-28 cassette with 10speed double tap flat bar shifters for nearly a year and no problems in mud or with longevity. 36T rear sprocket is aluminium, will last a long time. Who uses granny anyway (besides grandpa that is...) Shimano Integration was a brilliant concept, shot down by know it alls on internet forums who don;t get out enough. The Integration approach for XX is excellent. The ergonomics is excellent. XX brakes are massively powerful. I could probably get away with a 140mm rotor on the front wheel of my XC bike. T25 torx head drivers are supplied with SRAM Brake sets so the T25 driver will beincluded in the groupset. Problem solved..

10-speed is fine, been running a 1070 12-28 cassette with 10speed double tap flat bar shifters for nearly a year and no problems in mud or with longevity.

36T rear sprocket is aluminium, will last a long time. Who uses granny anyway (besides grandpa that is…)

Shimano Integration was a brilliant concept, shot down by know it alls on internet forums who don;t get out enough. The Integration approach for XX is excellent. The ergonomics is excellent.

XX brakes are massively powerful. I could probably get away with a 140mm rotor on the front wheel of my XC bike.

]]> By: Dave http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2486 Dave Tue, 26 May 2009 15:42:30 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2486 Sram road groupsets are compatible. Sram road groupsets are compatible.

]]> By: Dave http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2478 Dave Tue, 26 May 2009 15:07:43 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2478 All ten gears fit on a 9 speed hub, so narrower chain and cogs. The 36 tooth cog is going to last a lot longer than your middle chainring. Brakes and shifters can also be run seperately with their own clamps, X loc needs either the XX or and Elixir CR with MatchMaker X Chainline is fine at either extreme of the smallring/big cog or big ring/small cog. Revelation XX so it will all go on bikes such as the Scott Genius. Hydraulic X-loc has floodgate control up by the bars, lighter and works differently to poploc. The cassette is a thing of beauty, it looks like it'll clear crud better than existing offerings. Hang on and I'll run another story with more pictures. All ten gears fit on a 9 speed hub, so narrower chain and cogs. The 36 tooth cog is going to last a lot longer than your middle chainring.

Brakes and shifters can also be run seperately with their own clamps, X loc needs either the XX or and Elixir CR with MatchMaker X

Chainline is fine at either extreme of the smallring/big cog or big ring/small cog.

Revelation XX so it will all go on bikes such as the Scott Genius.

Hydraulic X-loc has floodgate control up by the bars, lighter and works differently to poploc.

The cassette is a thing of beauty, it looks like it’ll clear crud better than existing offerings. Hang on and I’ll run another story with more pictures.

]]> By: UpQuickDownSlow http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2476 UpQuickDownSlow Tue, 26 May 2009 14:54:07 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2476 Was there any mention of compatibility with the SRAM road groupsets? Was there any mention of compatibility with the SRAM road groupsets?

]]> By: southernsteel http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2474 southernsteel Tue, 26 May 2009 14:21:54 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2474 I like the idea of only two rings up front. I've got to say I think all of the XX parts look awful really awful, give me some xtr bling. Also woulnd't a 2x10 save some weight for the racers? I like the idea of only two rings up front. I’ve got to say I think all of the XX parts look awful really awful, give me some xtr bling. Also woulnd’t a 2×10 save some weight for the racers?

]]> By: tinsy http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2473 tinsy Tue, 26 May 2009 14:17:02 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2473 Just seen on the forum thread someone say the 36t at the back is Ally is that right? Is it possible to just use the shifter (not the brakes too)? is there a bracket for that and could you get a picture please. Just seen on the forum thread someone say the 36t at the back is Ally is that right?

Is it possible to just use the shifter (not the brakes too)? is there a bracket for that and could you get a picture please.

]]> By: james http://singletrackworld.com/2009/05/shhh/#comment-2470 james Tue, 26 May 2009 13:47:12 +0000 http://singletrackworld.com/?p=1783#comment-2470 "All that can be matched to a choice of Sid XX, Reba XX or Revelation XX " SID for racers, okay fine Reba, perhaps for racer that wanted a maxle or 120mm? Revelation XX 140mm. Why? Aren't they making SL, race and team (blackbox) versions of the revelation next year as well? That'll be 4 different models of a fork that isn't used in any top level racing? “All that can be matched to a choice of Sid XX, Reba XX or Revelation XX ”

SID for racers, okay fine
Reba, perhaps for racer that wanted a maxle or 120mm?
Revelation XX 140mm. Why?
Aren’t they making SL, race and team (blackbox) versions of the revelation next year as well? That’ll be 4 different models of a fork that isn’t used in any top level racing?

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